Tony said:

Don't some people mix datura into ayahuasca?

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Psychedelics and Anticholinergics

Ah yes, the psychedelic/anticholinergic mix is the territory of the waking dreamer, the Bizarro shaman. As we discussed earlier, the anticholinergic dream space is something no shaman takes lightly; it is a real brush up against (and over) the boundaries of life and death into an alternate space so real you will have no trouble believing it actually exists. Add this experience to the middle of an already raging ayahuasca (DMT) experience, and you can see how crazy the rainforest shamen who drop Datura into their brews actually are. In some sense this is an almost perfect combination for those daring psychonauts who really want to leave their body and go walking in the alternate realities of the void. Through the pharmacological mix of the MAO inhibitor (from the yage vine), the DMT (from the chacruna leaves), and the tropane delirients (from the Datura plant), the user is exposed over the period of a few hours to an experience that starts in the hellish (initial discomfort, purging), moves into the divine (the magical working of the DMT), then explodes into the fully immersive concrete spaces of the waking dreamtime (the anticholinergic boomerang effect). In experiential terms, the thematic arc of this visionary experience could not be programmed better, each new phase of the journey being ushered in by a specific compound acting to "raise the bar" on the immersion level of the visions until they become all consuming. However, in physical terms this is a dicey path to walk, and working with this particular combination takes restraint to keep it from becoming completely overwhelming. This "datura-huasca" combo can be re-created with pharmaceutical sources (as opposed to plant sources), but again, knowing your dosage and knowing the best ways to mix and consume the various drugs are very important here. If done wrong it could lead to severe derangement, convulsions, stroke, and death. If done right it could be one of the most effective ways to engage the elusive "liminal space" we've already discussed in some detail. Again, this combination is not for beginners, and any work with tropane alkaloids and other anticholinergic delirients is done at very real risk to your brain and health.

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Tony said:

If it's any consolation she had a dream about someone sucking on her thigh one morning and three hickies appeared there. Spooky, cuz it wasn't me, she's not flexible enough, and there was no one else in the apartment. So, I'm paranoid too. Not really about ghosts, but I'm afraid she might have some secret lover climbing in and out the window while I'm taking a shit.

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she's seeing someone else bro

deCypher said:

she's seeing someone else bro

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Lol. It must be a ghost then, because we live on the fourth floor

She does have some weird stories from her past too and sometimes she sees dancing lights, dead people lying on the floor at night, etc etc. Either she's messed up, or she's somehow actually connected with some weird juju.

deCypher said:

Just having a plant in your house wouldn't be enough to evoke a demon I'd say, although inhaling the fragrance emitted by it while sleeping can certainly induce strange dreams and nightmares.  Do some ritual banishings to clear your mind and space and you'll be fine.

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i want to do a banishing because i know this house is haunted to shit. even my friends get the prescence of another here and they certainly hear things for sure. i dont take the hell/demon stuff lightly at all really. i want nothing to do with that kind of negativity.

which reminds me, i painted a regular.. nauticle star on the floor in another room in the house which is still scaring me just because it has six points i did it for fun because its glow in the dark paint but its just the fact that i want nothing to do with any of that stuff so it does make me kind of nervous.