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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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well as long as we're talking social morals, nobody has a moral responsibility to take care of someone who willingly excludes useful foods from their diet
people who refuse to eat eggs ain't anyone else's problem

and i agree that cultivation of a complete plant diet would be logistically more difficult than, say, just grain, veggies, and meat, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be done -- if some large portion of america actually committed to becoming vegetarian (and I don't just mean eating no meat, I mean working on the infrastructure), then i think we live in a rich enough nation that it could work out pretty much flawlessly

of course, for the 3rd world, that approach would be nonsense


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
fapjack said:
Unless you are a vegetarian you're talking out of your ass.  The way we use animals is fucked up in general, if you want to stop it though you can start by giving up meat.


there is an enormous moral difference between slaughter for consumption and slaughter for entertainment


Yeah but you can still compare one bull to the slaughter of thousands in a single day.  Maybe they use the meat?  If they use the meat is it okay?


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Doctor_Dick said:
as humans then maybe our next step to evolution is to stop eating meat and realize we need to move away from it...we dont need it...we can get all proteins vitamins and amino acids from other sources instead of eating the meat



except that many come from animal sources even in their pill form, unless
of course you know of something so widely grown and easily distributable
that it can be made available to everyone


cant we get all that from cows milk?


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
well as long as we're talking social morals, nobody has a moral responsibility to take care of someone who willingly excludes useful foods from their diet
people who refuse to eat eggs ain't anyone else's problem


but the social/moral obligation to take care of those 'needy' are forced
on us every day regardless of whether those 'less fortunate' are willing
to get off their fat asses and work or not, so why would we not be
obligated to take care of the one that didnt want to eat their eggs

Quote:
i agree that cultivation of a complete plant diet would be logistically more difficult

i think we live in a rich enough nation that it could work out pretty much flawlessly



production is where the issue will lie, what happens during a time of
drought, do we simply allow millions to die off?


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Doctor_Dick]
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god damn cow's milk is good

i love cow's milk ...
but then i think back to that radical vegan documentary i saw, with all the ulcerated udders and shit ...

eeuuughghh
makes my milk taste like liquid suffering


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Doctor_Dick]
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Doctor_Dick said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Doctor_Dick said:
as humans then maybe our next step to evolution is to stop eating meat and realize we need to move away from it...we dont need it...we can get all proteins vitamins and amino acids from other sources instead of eating the meat



except that many come from animal sources even in their pill form, unless
of course you know of something so widely grown and easily distributable
that it can be made available to everyone


cant we get all that from cows milk?


arent you supposed to be telling me the answers


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
god damn cow's milk is good

i love cow's milk ...
but then i think back to that radical vegan documentary i saw, with all the ulcerated udders and shit ...

eeuuughghh
makes my milk taste like liquid suffering


:rolleyes:

a few sore udders is a lot better than millions of dead animals


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Doctor_Dick said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Doctor_Dick said:
as humans then maybe our next step to evolution is to stop eating meat and realize we need to move away from it...we dont need it...we can get all proteins vitamins and amino acids from other sources instead of eating the meat



except that many come from animal sources even in their pill form, unless
of course you know of something so widely grown and easily distributable
that it can be made available to everyone


cant we get all that from cows milk?


arent you supposed to be telling me the answers


im no nutritionist but im pretty sure the answer is yay


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
but the social/moral obligation to take care of those 'needy' are forced on us every day regardless of whether those 'less fortunate' are willing to get off their fat asses and work or not, so why would we not be obligated to take care of the one that didnt want to eat their eggs


morality applies to the forseeable consequences of human actions
if those unable to feed themselves are not helped, they'll die -- thus, their death is a forseeable consequence of our inaction
in contrast, a person who chooses not to nourish themselves appropriately is setting themselves up for the forseeable consequence of malnutrition

with regard to feeding people, i'm not sure exactly what fat asses you're talking about
to my knowledge, any village that's starving to death is gonna be pretty willing to do what it takes to get food -- whether that's work, steal, or whatever


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
makes my milk taste like liquid suffering


drink your suffering

it's the rBST cows you have to worry about, it's used to prolong milk
production, it poses a lot of problems including mastitis which is what
you saw in the propaganda film


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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vegetarians just make me laugh. how can you say eating meat is inhumane then continue to drink a glass of milk. it makes no sense. stop trying to be cool.

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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
i'm not sure exactly what fat asses you're talking about
to my knowledge, any village that's starving to death is gonna be pretty willing to do what it takes to get food -- whether that's work, steal, or whatever



people living fat on the government check... we're feeding them, of
course many of these welfare queens have plenty of disposable income
and could afford to feed themselves


why wouldnt we be moraly obligated to make sure they get their b12, iron
or what ever other pill if they decide not to eat from meat sources


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: LifeLike]
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i'm not a vegetarian, so i apologize if i'm putting words in anyone's mouth...

but how the fuck are you morally equating milking an animal with cutting it's fucking throat open?


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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if they have the resources to feed themselves properly, which is part of your premise, then we are not morally obligated to protect them from the forseeable consequences of their own poor (but free) choices


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: LifeLike]
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LifeLike said:
vegetarians just make me laugh. how can you say eating meat is inhumane then continue to drink a glass of milk. it makes no sense. stop trying to be cool.



not even the same, milking cows doesnt kill the cow

I guess we could go for humane amputations and prosthetics for cattle


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
if they have the resources to feed themselves properly, which is part of your premise, then we are not morally obligated to protect them from the forseeable consequences of their own poor (but free) choices


catch 22, do they have the resources, as I said, the logistics is where
the problem will be, sure it's available but if everyone is seeking the
same sources (excluding meats) then you've greatly reduced the supply,
some of these plant based sources are not readily bioavailable, iron for
instance, heme-iron is easily taken up, plant based isnt regardless of
the iron content of your veggies so now a source that wont be over taxed
needs to become available


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i no longer have any idea what the fuck you're talking about


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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laserpig said:
god damn cow's milk is good

i love cow's milk ...
but then i think back to that radical vegan documentary i saw, with all the ulcerated udders and shit ...

eeuuughghh
makes my milk taste like liquid suffering


just think of them utters as a tribal ritual, passing from teenager into slave mothers to milk the planet.  in a way...we are all sons and daughters of cows.


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
i no longer have any idea what the fuck you're talking about



it's the lack of animal proteins, it affects the brain :smirk:


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Re: How is Bullfighting legal WTF its so inhumane [Re: Prisoner#1]
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unlikely, as i probably eat as much meat as i do bread


i've re-read your post, and it seems now that you're asking about some kind of mandatory vegan state, where nobody in the population eats meat
that was never what i was talking about -- giving up meat is a choice (or at least it is in america), and as such it is the people who make this choice who are responsible for their own nutrition
as long as one has available to them free resources which could be put towards sufficient nutrition, nobody except themselves are responsible for their nutrition

the situation is different in impoverished communities in, for example, africa, where people do not have enough resources available to nourish themselves
in that case, it is not the starving person who is morally responsible for their condition


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