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Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF
#5905063 - 07/27/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont even know what to say about this...I mean...Mothballs...
Who does this? Cant these kids get any weed?
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Teenagers 'bagging' mothballs to get high
Practice of inhaling, chewing, is probably underreported, journal says
Thursday, July 27, 2006; Posted: 12:56 p.m. EDT (16:56 GMT)
BOSTON, Massachusetts (Reuters) -- The 18-year-old French woman was hospitalized with scaly skin on her legs and hands, appearing unsteady and mentally sluggish, doctors said.
They found the condition puzzling, especially since the woman's twin sister displayed similar, but less severe, symptoms and there was no family history of the problem, the doctors reported in this week's New England Journal of Medicine that
Several days later, doctors discovered the cause: a bag of mothballs stashed in her hospital room.
The teenagers had been using the mothballs to get high, inhaling air from the bag for about 10 minutes a day because classmates had recommended it. The sicker of the young women also had been chewing half a mothball a day for two months.
The doctors described the high as "dangerous" and most likely under-reported in medical literature.
The teenager told the doctors that she continued to use the mothballs during her hospitalization "because she thought her symptoms were not related to her habit," said Lionel Feuillet at the Hospital of Timone in Marseille, France.
Mothballs, used to prevent moth larva from getting into clothing, contain paradichlorobenzene, a substance also found in air fresheners and insect repellents that can cause liver and kidney failure, and severe anemia.
The discovery comes at a time when teenagers are increasingly experimenting with legal drugs such as OxyContin, widely known as "hillbilly heroin," and Vicodin, often bought online or taken from medicine cabinets, even before trying marijuana or alcohol, health officials say.
The sicker of the women took six months to recover fully. Her twin, who had only been "bagging" for a few weeks, recovered after three months.
Feuillet told Reuters that a cleaning lady discovered the mothballs in the drawer of the patient's night table.
When the woman was asked what she was doing with the bag, "she showed us how she used to breathe directly into the mothballs bag," Feuillet said.
Although only three cases of getting high with paradichlorobenzene have been reported in medical literature, "since young people usually deny practicing self-intoxication, the incidence of this type of recreational activity is probably underestimated," Feuillet and his colleagues said in the Journal.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/27/mothballs.high.reut/index.html
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905065 - 07/27/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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NASTY!!
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905066 - 07/27/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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"bagging" hahahah
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Boom]
#5905069 - 07/27/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow, what the fuck. morons.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: hempknight]
#5905072 - 07/27/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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THAT SHIT FUCKS YOU UP!
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5905080 - 07/27/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Imagine all the cobwebs that must clean out of your head? I can't wait to copy cat this.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905081 - 07/27/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Surprised nothing was said about them trying to smoke it in a crack pipe..
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905091 - 07/27/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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damn kids
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: eris]
#5905103 - 07/27/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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eris said:

Surprised nothing was said about them trying to smoke it in a crack pipe..
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905114 - 07/27/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Evidence that no matter how many things are illegal, idiots will still hurt themselves trying to get fucked up.
Isn't it easier to just treat the stupidity?
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Konnrade]
#5905137 - 07/27/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I knew a guy that would inhale computer duster from a can. It was nuts. He would sound like he was on helium and then pass out for a few min. The only thing I inhale is good bud.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905138 - 07/27/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said: Cant these kids get any weed?
I hear you man..Its not that hard to find. back in the day I used to buy it during lunch at school from one of the many dealers that went to my school. theres got to be at least one dealer they can find.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Konnrade]
#5905140 - 07/27/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Konnrade said: Isn't it easier to just treat the stupidity?
The best treatment for stupidity (assuming education is to no avail) is to allow the consequences of one's follies to develop to the full extent of the biological processes. Meaning, refrain from any life saving measures.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Trepiodos]
#5905174 - 07/27/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thusly a law should be enacted that places a Do Not Resuscitate order on anyone whose death is the clear and present result of natural selection.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Boom]
#5905276 - 07/27/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Booooom said: "bagging" hahahah
 
It goes along with the saying, "What will they think of next.".
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Konnrade]
#5905280 - 07/27/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Konnrade said: Thusly a law should be enacted that places a Do Not Resuscitate order on anyone whose death is the clear and present result of natural selection.
I was going to say something along the lines of this, as well. Survival of the fittest.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905281 - 07/27/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Chewing mothballs, that's that nastiest thing ive heard in ages. May aswell wash it down with a shot of bleach then snort some Ajax.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: blissedout]
#5905283 - 07/27/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ban Mothballs!
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905307 - 07/27/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What are mothballs anyway?
Isn't naphthalene or something?
So this is just solvent huffing, in essence?
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Schwip]
#5905315 - 07/27/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Schwip said: What are mothballs anyway?
Isn't naphthalene or something?
So this is just solvent huffing, in essence?
"Mothballs, used to prevent moth larva from getting into clothing, contain paradichlorobenzene..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradichlorobenzene
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Mike_yy]
#5905331 - 07/27/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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mikeyyork said: Chewing mothballs, that's that nastiest thing ive heard in ages. May aswell wash it down with a shot of bleach then snort some Ajax.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Konnrade]
#5905336 - 07/27/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Children should not be allowed to play with or drink toilet bowl water"
Derrr
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Konnrade]
#5905347 - 07/27/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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p-DCB is also found in "toilet deodorizers"... so essentially what the little retard was doing is identical to huffing and chewing on urinal cakes.
Yeah, she's got a bright future.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: eris]
#5905357 - 07/27/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I remember this one kid, we were chilling in the forest and he pulled out a can of butane. He huffed the shit out of this thing and then out of no where starts reading the bible, he didnt say one word during this whole process. I starting dying laughing (perhaps you would need to know the guy to find it funny), though I was also a little freaked out.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: eris]
#5905373 - 07/27/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
eris said:
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mikeyyork said: Chewing mothballs, that's that nastiest thing ive heard in ages. May aswell wash it down with a shot of bleach then snort some Ajax.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Mike_yy]
#5905393 - 07/27/06 01:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like breakfast of champions...
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: eris]
#5905443 - 07/27/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not much of a meal. These kids can't consume much of it. I mean, ya gotta figure... the biggest moth I ever saw only measured about three inches from wing-tip to wing-tip. How big can the balls be?
I bet you didn't even know they wear wing-tips.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Harmonic_Order]
#5905523 - 07/27/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol
moth teabag fetish
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Konnrade]
#5905578 - 07/27/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Konnrade said: Isn't it easier to just treat the stupidity?
[url=Colbert- I'm With Stupid [/url]
and these "baggers" should be removed from the gene pool, preferably by their deaths
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5905584 - 07/27/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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kids these days
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5906560 - 07/27/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This reminds me of the story where here in Canada, a couple of aboriginal kids would steal gas from gas pumps. They'd pump enough gas to fill a plastic bag, then run off into the forest and start huffing with all their friends.
Legalize weed for fucks sake.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: adamj]
#5906574 - 07/27/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know some gas huffers.. no way could weed replace their gas habits.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: eris]
#5906582 - 07/27/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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eris said: I know some gas huffers.. no way could weed replace their gas habits.
Blame the parents? I dunno... I'm gonna go inhale.... normal... smoke of the marijuana kind.... and a little bit of dust cleaner on the side.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: adamj]
#5906590 - 07/27/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know... apparently the gas high is totally different. I wouldn't know though.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Harmonic_Order]
#5906592 - 07/27/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Harmonic_Order said: Not much of a meal. These kids can't consume much of it. I mean, ya gotta figure... the biggest moth I ever saw only measured about three inches from wing-tip to wing-tip. How big can the balls be?
I bet you didn't even know they wear wing-tips.
haha, reminds me of when i was maybe 6 or 7 and would, you know, get in trouble with my mom if i said "balls". We were at the supermarket and she was buying spray starch or something for laundry and I saw a box of mothballs on the shelf and started laughing hysterically. she demanded to know what I was laughing at and I never would tell her for fear of being reprimanded.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: adamj]
#5906595 - 07/27/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
adamj said:
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eris said: I know some gas huffers.. no way could weed replace their gas habits.
Blame the parents? I dunno... I'm gonna go inhale.... normal... smoke of the marijuana kind.... and a little bit of dust cleaner on the side.
What's "normal" exactly? 
While on the topic of huffing gas, have any of you seen the movie "Love Liza"? If not then I highly recommend watching it, it's pretty crazy.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5906630 - 07/27/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheMadConductor said: THAT SHIT FUCKS YOU UP!
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: adamj]
#5906805 - 07/27/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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adamj said:
Legalize weed for fucks sake.
I agree but kids still arn't going to be able to get it if it's legal, age limits and that they'll always look for alternatives.
So how do you handle the younger generation that wants to get high ?
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Mike_yy]
#5907138 - 07/27/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bet it's not as good as smoking bananas.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: avapxia]
#5907181 - 07/27/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Harmonic_Order]
#5907523 - 07/28/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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huffing gas is one fucked up thing man i did it when i was a kid it actually gets ya damn fucked up and then i moved onto pot
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Dobie]
#5907780 - 07/28/06 02:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#5907793 - 07/28/06 02:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was like 11 lol just chillin in the garage huffin gas maybe thats whats wrong with me
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: Dobie]
#5908090 - 07/28/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone heard of the "choking game?" I saw a story on the news about kids that would choke/hang themselves to pass out because it got them "high."
Yeah, I fully agree with letting nature take its course eliminating those in the shallow end of the gene pool.
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: EmperorKuzco]
#5908095 - 07/28/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i did that when i was young like7th grade
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Re: Kids Eating Mothballs to Get High...WTF [Re: EmperorKuzco]
#5908096 - 07/28/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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oxygen deprivation, LOL
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