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Innocent Until Proven Guilty
    #1186121 - 01/02/03 11:54 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

If this is the case then why are people arrested and sent to jail before they are determined to be guilty of commiting a crime?

That's a weak example but I'm sure some of you understand what I am talking about.

If you ask me they should just tell the truth and make it "Guilty until proven Innocent"



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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Shroomism]
    #1186124 - 01/03/03 12:00 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

When arrested and charged that's the way the allegation is made against someone. It is up to the prosecutor to prove the guilt of the defendant. The defendant gets to be judged by a jury 12 random registered voters. Often these juries rubber stamp what the prosecutor says and think along the lines of "He's in court and there's some circumstancial evidence so he's guilty." This is especially the case with black defendants in drug cases. The best trial lawyers do create an alternative theory to the prosecutors besides rippin up the prosecutors theory. They also charge the biggest $$$.


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1186131 - 01/03/03 12:12 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

The judicial system is fucked. Burn it, it's a witch!

I'll try to think of a better example so you'll get a clearer picture of what I'm saying.


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Shroomism]
    #1186144 - 01/03/03 12:49 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

****The judicial system is fucked. Burn it, it's a witch!****

how do you know it's a witch? Does it float?


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1186148 - 01/03/03 12:56 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I don't know, but I think it's made of wood.


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Shroomism]
    #1186149 - 01/03/03 12:58 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Since wood burns and floats then it can be assured she is a witch.


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1186151 - 01/03/03 01:02 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

BURN THE WITCH!!!


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Shroomism]
    #1186157 - 01/03/03 01:11 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

thanks, i needed my monty fix....


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Shroomism]
    #1186540 - 01/03/03 06:33 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I think I understand what you're trying to convey... you're saying the phrase is sort of Orwellian Doublespeak?


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: Shroomism]
    #1186601 - 01/03/03 06:52 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

There's a difference between jail and prison. Jail is where they take you when you're arrested so they can charge you with a crime and get your fingerprints. Prison is where they take you after you've been convicted.


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Re: Innocent Until Proven Guilty [Re: silversoul7]
    #1186742 - 01/03/03 07:37 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

A county jail is used for both.


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