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Nuclear sanctions
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I really want to stay away from politics as much as possible in this thread.

I just find it ironic that the only nation to have ever used a nuclear weapon against another country tries to circumvent other nations from developing such a weapon as they might use them as a weapon of terror. (Not sure how else a nuke can be used...)

Of course, any thinking individual realizes there is no morality behind this stance. 'First World' nations don't want any others to enter the elite club because it levels the military playing field to a great extent - hence the demonization of the leaders of such countries trying to enter the big times.


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Well, That kind of seems obvious doesn't it?


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
'First World' nations don't want any others to enter the elite club because it levels the military playing field to a great extent - hence the demonization of the leaders of such countries trying to enter the big times.

I'm just glad that I live in a 'First World' nation. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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And what is wrong with that?

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: DieCommie]
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How the hell could this thread not really dilute into political discussion? What else would we say?


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Of biological weapons don't wipe out most the population its the use of nuclear weapons.  Retaliation will most likely occur killing even millions more.  Its no suprise to anyone that the US is a fear mongering hipocrite.


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L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

Edited by Cognitive_Shift (01/11/10 05:38 PM)

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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I don't see the lack of morality. The idea is that peace is a balancing act - disrupt the balance of power and you get more war.

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: Freedom]
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Countries with nukes try to extort aid and have negotiating power with them.  Yeah, it's a power play to some extent, although who knows whether the real motive is protection or dominance.  The two go hand in hand.

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: andrewss]
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Quote:
How the hell could this thread not really dilute into political discussion? What else would we say?


You don't like a challenge? Just because I really hamstrung you there...

Seriously, I am more into the psychology of such a stance than the international repercussions for the nations involved.


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
And what is wrong with that?


I didn't use the word 'wrong' anywhere, now did I?

The point is, why cannot the USA state it exactly as it is? Why the game of pretend?


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Well for starters we are dishonest to the core.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: Icelander]
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Not always. Attila the Hun said he would destroy any village that resisted him or that failed to pay tribute. He pulled no punches. Had no PR campaign except for heads on a stick.

BTW, what is the grand finish?


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
DieCommie said:
And what is wrong with that?


I didn't use the word 'wrong' anywhere, now did I?

The point is, why cannot the USA state it exactly as it is? Why the game of pretend?



what do they say it is? i think its just your perception.

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Not always. Attila the Hun said he would destroy any village that resisted him or that failed to pay tribute. He pulled no punches. Had no PR campaign except for heads on a stick.

BTW, what is the grand finish?



by we I meant the USA


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: Icelander]
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Why would I want other countries to have nukes?


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: deCypher]
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For more fun.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: Icelander]
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I save my masochistic urges of enjoyable self-destruction for things like smoking cigarettes and doing hard drugs, not for dying from a nuclear holocaust.  :nonono:


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
Why would I want other countries to have nukes?


To be fair. Level playing field and all.


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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Fuck fairness, let's just keep the upper hand while we still have it. :thumbup:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Nuclear sanctions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Why would we want to do that unless we were at the bottom?  Leveling the playing field brings us all down to the common denominator - fuck that.  I want to maintain the balance of power and our current hegemony.

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