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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I never said it wasn't neurotoxic. To be safe I've always just assumed that it was.

I still feel it's a valuable asset to our emotional well-being.
It allows people to love and feel in ways that are normally out of reach.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #12]
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Anonymous #12 said:
It allows people to love and feel in ways that are normally out of reach.




the love of E is not love.

the feelings of E are not feelings.

i guess i hate MDMA because of this exact reason why you love it.

i find it FAKE AS FUCK

and very shallow.

i used to defend it.  looking back on E makes me wish i had never promoted it to anyone. 

maybe you wont have the same day.

but please do not tell people E is good for their emotions.  IMO its the only thing they damage.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Yeah, E is pretty fake

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #22]
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what is your point.  that feelings = chemicals?

i will have to call you an idiot for thinking that.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #23]
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Anonymous #23 said:
Yeah, E is pretty fake



No, E is very real. You are the one who is fake. You having that realization shows the drug worked. Now it's up to you to heal.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
the love of E is not love.
the feelings of E are not feelings.




:rolleyes:

Your experience doesn't dictate reality.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
what is your point.  that feelings = chemicals?

i will have to call you an idiot for thinking that.



haha, not what i said at all

need me to say it again?


Oxytocin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

READ

it's more like chemicals = feelings... eventually

this is what cause these supposed "fake" feelings of love on mdma and after intercourse and bearing children... yeah, and good luck with that. :lol:

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #22]
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chemicals = feelings = chemicals = feelings = chemicals = feelings = chemicals = feelings.........

w/e.


i know my experience does not dictate reality, but my expereince does not stand alone, you may think it does but it does not, lots of people around the world are hurt by E all the time.

i recognized the trap of E and stopped thankfully.

however, lots of stupid defensive druggies will stand up and state the obvious... blblblbla your reality is not mine etc.

BUT I AM SAYING THIS.

DO NOT PROMOTE E AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A FEEL GOOD DRUG.

unless you are the dosing people pure MDMA and guiding them through their psyche with your vast knowledge of them personally or due to studying psychology at great depths.

THIS DRUG FRIES PEOPLE.  DO NOT DENY IT AND STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW IT CHANGES PEOPLE AND HOW IT MAKES YOUr LIFE bETTER AND ALL THIS CRAP.

and it is partly to do with the stupid drug pushers not giving a full picture to those "friends" of theirs they are giving the drug to.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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lollolol i am not disagreeing with you about all that, chico

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #22]
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Yeah i used to deal e..

i dealt to a junior kid only on the weekends.. now i moved away and i hear that the kid and some of his friends dropped out and take it everyday.. man what a waist and for what a couple bucks

i feel at fault it makes me :confused:

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #21]
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Anonymous #23 said:
Yeah, E is pretty fake



Exactly my point, E and cocaine are both fun, but they are both artificial.  People coming down on E look and act the same as people coming down on coke.  You don't see that shit with LSD.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
DO NOT PROMOTE E AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A FEEL GOOD DRUG.



Obviously you've never experienced the therapeutic potential of MDMA then.
Just because you used to eat meth bombs and tweek out at raves doesn't mean that's all it's good for.
I suggest you open your mind a little and read about the possibilities beyond your limited imagination:

Accounts of MDMA’s Healing Effects:

http://www.maps.org/mdma/

Quote:
PTSD

    * MDMA helping with PTSD from suicide bomber
    * MDMA in healing trauma/PTSD resulting from parent’s suicide
    * MDMA (at a rave) helps heal trauma from sexual assault
    * MDMA therapy in the treatment of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder resulting from sexual abuse
    * MDMA and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder in a WWII Veteran
    * MDMA for PTSD from violent sexual abuse

Cancer/Terminal Illness

    * My Daughter’s Good Death
    * Speaking the Silence: MDMA in a couple dealing with cancer: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 (final letter).
    * A series of letters on MDMA and cancer (daughter and father)
    * Alleviating pain from cancer
    * MDMA, self-love and terminal illness
    * LSD for Cancer?

Couples Therapy

    * MDMA Heals Relationship Divide
      by NOIA, CA 2005, from The Entheogen Review 14(2): 144-145;

MDMA and chronic pain

    * Daily Low-Dose MDMA in the Treatment of Chronic Pain
    * Chronic back pain

Eating disorders

    * Bulimarexia and MDMA
    * MDMA in the treatment of eating disorders related to sexual trauma

Parkinson’s Disease

    * MDMA reduces symptoms of Parkinson’s
      Dr. David Nichols of Purdue University says "The story results from lack of knowledge about what Ecstasy does in the brain,"

Self Development/General Therapeutic

    * "Through the Gateway of the Heart" -- a collection of over 50 personal accounts of the therapeutic/spiritual/personal growth uses of MDMA, first published in 1985.
    * MDMA in a severely disturbed man with psychosis, administered by his brother
    * MDMA helped after therapy, pills and ECT didn’t
    * MDMA: a catalyst for healing my fears and depression
    * MDMA in a woman with Ovarian Cysts
    * Potentials for MDMA in neuromuscular therapy
    * Alleviation of emotional and physical pain in an elderly man
    * MDMA as adjunct to therapeutic bodywork




I guess all these people (and thousands of others) must be delusional then? :rolleyes:

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #12]
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God I hate u fkn people who always start these "my drugs is better than yours" threads, I have learned as much from taking amphetamines (including methamphetamine) as i have from tryptamines, phenethylamines and LSD, its all subjective just because your a fucking junkie doesn't give you the right to spew bullshit about mdma I bet what your taking isn't even molly, eat shit and die asshole

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #12]
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Anonymous #12 said:
You're a dumbass OP, real MDMA (not your bullshit street pills) was originally used in therapy.
That's where it's real talent lies, in breaking down barriers and allowing a person to feel comfortable talking about and feeling things they would never allow themselves to sober.

Also, if you've done it "over 200 times" then I guess you're calling yourself a tard huh?


:bucktoothfattygangsta: <-- OP at one of his faggot "raves"


Drugs dont make people stupid, STUPID PEOPLE DO DRUGS. You were a tard to begin with!

:themoreyouknow:



If this wasn't anonymous id give u 5 mushrooms for that post

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #24]
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I never said MDMA is better than anything.

If anything the OP is the one spewing this bullshit with his "LSD is more godly than any other drug" talk.

:smilingpuppy:

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
Anonymous #12 said:
LOL

Keep believing "my drugs are better than yours".

In reality, whose to say which drug is more "godly" than any other, especially for others beyond yourself?
I guess you think you're special and important enough to do this?
Sounds like you have your panties in a wad because you lost the magic from doing it too much.
Well that's a big fucking shame! Now why don't you STFU and let the rest of us enjoy it?




he is warning you.

i was at the same place as you once. wondering why people badmouth E.

well now i know after the emotional damage that i sustained from it.  The emotional progress made on E is not along the same lines as your sober self.  The positive push of the drug ensures that any decisions you make emotionally or rationally are uninformed silly decisions.

E is a party drug.  E can also be used medicinally.  But so can heroin and cocaine.  Just because psychologists figures out a good way to use E does not mean its good for your psychology.

E damages your brain function temporarily.  Anyone who doubts this needs to re-evaluate their relationship with the drug.  This temporary damage can have side effects that last much longer.  Just like when you make the wrong exit on the freeway, your one minute mistake leads  you on a 20 minute roundabout.

E is fun.  Thats about it.  Dont tell people they should not badmouth it. 

There is no magic.  Just an illusion.  Those who lost the magic just have awakened.



That's the danger of peak experiences catalysed by drugs, learn your lesson and stop being a baby and stop insulting the rest of us who are not as braindead.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #24]
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<-- Adamist

I dunno why this thread's in Anon anyways. :shrug:

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Anonymous #9 said:
1.that wasn't really directed at anyone in particular
it was just useful advice.

and

2. NOT EVERYONE EATS MEAT AND DRINKS MILK  (I DON'T)
-so go snort a line of powdered jenkem :shakefist:




'cause you're a hippy that thinks it's healthy/righteous to not eat meat/drink milk

go tie yourself to a tree or something.

E is like the snooty-man's meth.

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Re: Fuck MDMA(to all MDMA advocates) [Re: Anonymous #25]
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It is healthy to not eat meat (i do though, wtv) not everyone that does things like that is a hippy u sterotyping retard

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