Cognitive_Shift said:

there is strong scientific evidence of the green house effect catalyzing global warming, and subsequently driving climate to change faster.  Soo fast that evolution is not going to keep up, thus driving some species to instinction.  Its not a universal fact.  But if you are a reasonable human being you can say with high confidence that this is what is going to happen if we continue to pump CO2 in the sky.  Period.

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Cognitive_Shift said:

It is possible that we are playing no role in the fast rising surface temps.  But the evidence is suggesting otherwise.  The accuracy of temperature readings from 100,000 years ago is irrelevant to the data sitting right in front of our eyes. 

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SOURCE: National Center for Atmospheric Research | 30-year period: 1961-1990 | The Washington Post

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Cognitive_Shift said:

We are fucking pumping the skies with CO2.

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Viveka said:

I analyzed the same data you did and concluded it is just as likely that the CO2 follows temperature.  I do not have enough information or the ability to know with any certainty which is true.

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Cognitive_Shift said:

Did you miss this graph pris?


Its a fact that the greenhouse effect causes the planet to warm.

Its a fact that humans are pumping the atmosphere with CO2.

There is a correlation between increasing temperatures and increased parts per million of CO2.


I think its most likely anthropogenic.

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Silversoul said:

It is a known fact that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

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Prisoner#1 said:

Silversoul said:

It is a known fact that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

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it's a known fact that limestone and other carbonate rocks release CO2

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Prisoner#1 said:

correlation is not causation, look at your other graph with higher temps
in the 40s, what about all those other warming spells, what about the
cooling spells including the one that we're entering

NEW ICE AGE, GLOBAL COOLING!!!

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Yes there is cooling and warming as that data is between months.  Look at the graph that is over hundreds of thousands of years.  It more accurately represents climate change.

I understand correlatoin is not causation.  Thats why is said its "most likely" anthropogenic and not "is."  It could not be humans, im not claiming it IS.  I am claiming that there is scientific evidence to indicate that this is either anthropogenic, or climate change on a scale of change so fast its never been seen or heard of

Prisoner#1 said:

silicate rocks, carbonate rocks, plants, animals, virtually everything
releases CO2 and other greenhouse gasses and there's plenty o research to show it

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Cognitive_Shift said:

Yes there is cooling and warming as that data is between months.  Look at the graph that is over hundreds of thousands of years.  It more accurately represents climate change.

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where's the actual data, a graph means nothing other than someone can produce a graph to try and push their global warming agenda, here's one that shows temps have been on a decline since before 2002



here's one that shows one of your others has doctored numbers

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I understand correlatoin is not causation.  Thats why is said its "most likely" anthropogenic and not "is."

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so yours and some crackpot scientist that wanna push their eco agenda
claim it's because of humans and our CO2 output even though other
scientists are showing just the opposite

so wait...

Cognitive_Shift said:

The source of my graph for my "crack pot scientist eco agenda"
http://www.ipcc.ch/
  Pris are you reading what you are typing before posting?  Your graph is about ocean temp.  Not surface temp, invalid data.

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Temperature projections to the year 2100, based on a range of emission scenarios and global climate models. Scenarios that assume the highest growth in greenhouse gas emissions provide the estimates in the top end of the temperature range. The orange line (“constant CO2”) projects global temperatures with greenhouse gas concentrations stabilized at year 2000 levels. Source: NASA Earth Observatory, based on IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (2007)

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Projected future regional patterns of warming based on three emissions scenarios (low, medium, and high growth). Source: NASA Earth Observatory, based on IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (2007)

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