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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Wapakz]
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not here, it was pretty cool as was august, I stand by the global cooling,
we're hitting another ice age because august in GA remained under 100F
when we normally see temps over 105F

in fact it's not an isolated incident

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTlhOTNiOWFlMmMzNmJkOWM3ZTk5NWJkNTU2Nzk5NWI=

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: hawksapprentice]
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All the planets in the Solar System are warming up.

I guess our greenhouse gases are warming up the solar system?:lol:

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Mr.Al]
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nope... global cooling, we need to burn more fossil fuels to stay warm

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090114065138.aspx
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

it even snowed in bagdad for the first time in recorded history, more than 5000 years

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Global Warming Petition
We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.


This petition has been signed by over 31,000 American scientists.


http://www.oism.org/pproject/


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Solar flares in 2012...

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Ogla]
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Its not a hoax - the ice caps are actually melting.

The problem is the lack of understanding that people think its never happened before or something.  If we look back over the life of the earth is happened loads of times.  We are actually over due for another ice age relatively speaking.


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: IMaGicaL]
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IMaGicaL said:
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Was trying to say humans can be very destructive not necessarily re: CO2 though. I guess I didn't make much sense. I had just so much to say about that statement too.
Leeches and mosquitoes aren't trying to harm anybody, they're just trying to get food. All living beings are out for themselves. Nobody said humans are a disease upon the world.



See the establishment wants it to seem as if humans are the real source of global warming. This justifies the need of a regulatory system and global bank where carbon taxes are paid to. Simply a means of control and power over the population.




you spend a lot of time with glen beck, don't you?


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Taco Chef]
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i hear that the globe is warming, but it is a natural cycle.  I also hear the CO2 doesn't warm up the earth or is a threat like the media makes it seem and that some scientist talk out about it..  What i wounder thou, if its all a hoax, what kind of agenda does teh government have in trying to prove to people that its real?? I mean, some of the things (like obama's rail road expansion) they will say they are doing it to help with global warming. Why does the government want all of us to think that disaster is coming?  :shrug:

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Ogla]
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Because one people are afraid, they're more apt to concede freedom in order to feel more secure.


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: hawksapprentice]
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Global warming is a fraud and an outright lie. The goal of the people pushing it is a global carbon tax. If you take an opinion on this type of thing, you had better have done the research, and checked the data. The Sun warms and cools the planet depending on its activity, which goes in rough cycles. The Sun has been studied for a very long time, (sunspot activity, etc) and the evidence supports that this, not carbon dioxide levels, drives climate change.

Besides, carbon dioxide isn't a bad thing for life on this planet. It's certainly not a pollutant.

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: arg6]
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arg6 said:
Global warming is a fraud and an outright lie. The goal of the people pushing it is a global carbon tax. If you take an opinion on this type of thing, you had better have done the research, and checked the data. The Sun warms and cools the planet depending on its activity, which goes in rough cycles. The Sun has been studied for a very long time, (sunspot activity, etc) and the evidence supports that this, not carbon dioxide levels, drives climate change.

Besides, carbon dioxide isn't a bad thing for life on this planet. It's certainly not a pollutant.



Proof?

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: feifen]
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he doesn't need proof he has fox.


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: arg6]
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arg6 said:
Global warming is a fraud and an outright lie. The goal of the people pushing it is a global carbon tax. If you take an opinion on this type of thing, you had better have done the research, and checked the data. The Sun warms and cools the planet depending on its activity, which goes in rough cycles. The Sun has been studied for a very long time, (sunspot activity, etc) and the evidence supports that this, not carbon dioxide levels, drives climate change.

Besides, carbon dioxide isn't a bad thing for life on this planet. It's certainly not a pollutant.



Please post sources. I'm not against you, just want to see where you're getting all this from. :peace:


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: IMaGicaL]
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IMaGicaL said:
The idea that carbon dioxide is a pollutant is essentially a way of saying that humanity is a disease and should be depopulated.



That is the true nature of the environmental movement.

Global warming hype is nonsense. yes, the globe is warming, but in direct relation to solar radiation. It has nothing to do with CO2.

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: hawksapprentice]
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IMaGicaL said:
Global warming is not caused from human activity maybe that huge ball of fire in the sky might have something to do with it.



So you don't think organisms on earth can have drastic effects on the climate?  What about the fact that a long time ago earth had little to no O2 or ozone layer?  All that is the product of our photosynthetic friends....

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: RationalEgo]
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Every time I read one of these threads I get dumber. This issue might as well be abortion vs pro-life; people seem to pick a position and run with it. While the issue of anthropogenic warming may be as yet unsettled, I can say without a doubt that I see more unsupported statements and purely anecdotal references used as an appeal by proponents of one side of the issue. I guess I'll leave it to the reader to guess which side that is.

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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: antiPock]
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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: DeeGee]
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Anyone that thinks global warming is either fake or a hoax is just not educated on the issue.  Or is a paranoid schizophrenic.  Its not really a question.  Its scientific fact.  The reason global warming is happening is because of the green house effect.  Its not the CO2 is bad.  It just has certain properties, one of which is absorbing wavelengths in the infared part of the spectrum.  When this radiation comes from the sun, some of it is either reflected back out into space, or absorbed by the earths surface.  When you have increased CO2 levels, you have less infared radiation being reflected back into space because green house gases absorb this wavelength of light, subsequently increasing temperature.


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
Anyone that thinks global warming is either fake or a hoax is just not educated on the issue.  Or is a paranoid schizophrenic.  Its not really a question.  Its scientific fact.  The reason global warming is happening is because of the green house effect.  Its not the CO2 is bad.  It just has certain properties, one of which is absorbing wavelengths in the infared part of the spectrum.  When this radiation comes from the sun, some of it is either reflected back out into space, or absorbed by the earths surface.  When you have increased CO2 levels, you have less infared radiation being reflected back into space because green house gases absorb this wavelength of light, subsequently increasing temperature.



And some people contend the effects of this, global warming, fall into the category of 'having happened before. I think no matter how you view this issue the fact is temperature change happens and the discrepancy is those who view global warming as an imminent danger cannot say for certain that climate change within the last 500 years is drastically out line compared to natural change. Conversely, in the last 100 years climate has increased at an unprecedented rate. Is global warming a man-made issue that will kill us all? Probably not, I view it as us accelerating climate change that otherwise would occur naturally at a slower rate.

I hope that made sense :tongue2:


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Re: Global Warming Hoax [Re: Deekay]
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Its possible that the earth is going through a warming phase.  But its a fact that when you pump CO2 into the atmosphere a this rate it WILL cause the earth to become warmer.


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