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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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Just a question:

How much more acid have you done since that post, about one year ago?


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
Definitely not a 'taste' in the traditional sense.



You ever get a paper cut and then suck on the wound?  You know that metallic taste.

I didn't know there were traditional and non-traditional tastes:shrug:


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
Just a question:

How much more acid have you done since that post, about one year ago?



Lost track.  March 09' was an interesting month, tripped 6 times all trips from the 06-08 hoffs.  I would guess in my life time i have tripped on LSD 15-20 times.


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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I would put my count at well over fifty approaching a hundred.

Not one ever had anything I would call a taste. Metallic, electric, feelings, but not really a taste.


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
I would put my count at well over fifty approaching a hundred.

Not one ever had anything I would call a taste. Metallic, electric, feelings, but not really a taste.



Yeah what does metallic feel like?


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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This is by far one of the most mis informed threads I've come across in a long time.



Lsd will never take 5 hours to kick in


You can not make your own

5 - meo - amt is NOT just like LSD....it tastes like shit.....takes 2 hours to kick in.....and gives you extreme nausea and the shits, and then is strictly visuals that are more similar to a 2c then LSD.

If it kicks in within 30 minutes it's LSD.

If oyur peak is only lasting 2 hours it is not LSD.

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
Lsd will never take 5 hours to kick in



5 - meo - amt is NOT just like LSD.



  bullshit dude... It took 5 hours to kick in and then lasted 8. You arent me. I have also had it kick in in 15 minutes....  crush a microdot and snort it.
  And 5meo was closer to LSD feeling then shrooms or mesc. I never tried 2c

Edited by cpw1971 (09/29/09 05:28 PM)

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: cpw1971]
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LSD should definately not take 5 hours to kick in.

The most plausible situation for this to happen (assuming the drug you took was LSD, which I don't really buy, sorry) is this:

1.) You took a weak dose.
2.) You had a very full stomach and you swallowed the hit without letting it sit in your mouth at all (this could make the comeup around 2+ hours).
3.) You started mildly tripping off the weak hit about 2 and a half hours later. You experienced mild mental effects, but didn't notice them.
4.) You smoked weed which potentiated the LSD and you began to trip about 5 hours after ingestion.

This is implausible because I doubt all these circumstances came together and also because you wouldn't have tripped for another 8 hours off such a weak dose. If the weed was the only reason you started tripping then you should have stopped tripping when the weed wore off. Honestly, I think you got a DOx and took it on a full stomach and therefore didn't start tripping for 5 hours. There is nothing wrong with taking a DOx, its a perfectly legitimate psychedelic drug and nobody will shun you for taking it (not to mention accidentally). You just have to be open minded enough to chalk that experience up to a DOx chem instead of LSD; the name of the drug doesn't change the experience you had  (good or bad) and the details of this one experience doesn't change the many other experiences you probably have with LSD.


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"Psychedelics helped me to escape.. albeit momentarily.. from the prison of my mind. It over-rode the habit patterns of thought and I was able to taste innocence again. Looking at sensations freshly without the conceptual overlay was very profound." - Ram Das

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: teeter]
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dude once it kicked in I tripped face for 8 hours.
  and I dont give a shit what anyone thinks.
  Now find me an RC that kicks in 5 hours later and lasts 8 hours and feels just like LSD then I would think yeah maybe it was an RC.
  The thing was my friends took hits off the same page and only mine took 5 hours. They were tripping and I was like WTF????

Edited by cpw1971 (09/29/09 05:47 PM)

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: cpw1971]
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onset is dependent of your body. and it kicks in differently for everyone, so you can't use that as a reliable factor.


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: cpw1971]
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Seems to me like you don't pay attention to the drugs you are on very much......you just take them......



Some people don't see the forest for the trees.


LSD will never in a million years take 5 hours to kick in. 

Doc will take up to 3 hours to kick in.......the next two hours you probably didn't notice you were high......then 8 hours later back to baseline........hmmmm......thats 13 hours........and doc lasts 12-16.

You are a clown.

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: vandago]
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this thread annoyed me.


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
Seems to me like you don't pay attention to the drugs you are on very much......you just take them......



Some people don't see the forest for the trees.


LSD will never in a million years take 5 hours to kick in. 

Doc will take up to 3 hours to kick in.......the next two hours you probably didn't notice you were high......then 8 hours later back to baseline........hmmmm......thats 13 hours........and doc lasts 12-16.

You are a clown.




  you are an asshole
  who the fuck are you to tell me how long it takes for something to hit me???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: cpw1971]
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You are an idiot.

Who are you to be the single person to ever take 5 hours to feel LSD?


It was a research chem chief.


And you are quite the defensive one.

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: vandago]
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how do you know if I am the only one it has happened to??
  And if it was an RC don't you think my friends would have had the same thing happen???

  maybe it was due to food in my stomache I dunno.  Some foods take a long time to digest and perhaps the hit could have gotten stuck inside some food.  IS that so impossible??  no
  and yes I am quite the defensive one.  I got picked on a lot as a kid and I don't put up with shit from anyone anymore. lol 

Edited by cpw1971 (09/29/09 10:14 PM)

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
cpw1971 said:
fuck you cocksucker :mad2:
why dont you explain the "ignorance"
  Just because it took 5 hours for acid to hit me??  what an asshole
And I see you have pages of 0 ratings to boot.




Okay children.  I know you know how to use the internet, its very simple.
This graph for example


As you can see the come up for LSD does not take 5 hours.  In fact if it takes 5 hours to come up, that is a key characteristic that it is not LSD.

This is a citation, it is an exerpt from a previous text.
Quote:
DOB is a phenethylamine with a character similar to 2C-B but several times longer in duration. Because of this duration, many people prefer to do it earlier in the day. Caution...DOB takes a fairly long time to onset (up to 3 hours) for most people.



Link to previous text

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/dob_effects.shtml


In conclusion, anyone should know basic information before making declarative statements about a subject they nothing about.


THE END (clapping)



One time it took an entire hour for me to come up on some LSD, and the trip still lasted 12 hours, and the peak was somewhere in the middle and lasted about 4-6 hours. I do not know of any RC that has those qualities. However, I was also rolling on some really good pressed E pills before I took the LSD, so it could be my ignorance in the actual amount of time that went by before I started tripping. I'm not entirely sure, but I recall checking the time on a clock when I first noticed visuals and it took about an hour. Perhaps the MDMA inhibited the LSD for a short period of time before it kicked in. It wasn't a particularly high dose either, I took two hits, it was probably about 200-300mcg.


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
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One time I fell asleep on an acid comeup, and it took way longer for me to feel any effects when I woke up, though my friends who stayed awake were tripping hard. I never got to a good level either, even though I took the same amount as they did.

The first time I ate mushrooms, it literally took 3 hours for any distinct effects to come on. I felt a little funny, and we watched an entire movie. then we went to the park and walked around for a while. THEN I started tripping, and it lasted for a full six hours. This happened on mushrooms once more, a few years later.

No one knows all the factors that affect comeup and duration. It is much more likely that a long lasting psychedelic phenethylamine would take a lot longer to kick in than a tryptamine, but this ISN'T WRITTEN IN STONE.


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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: JackofSpades]
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This forum pisses me off i want some L so bad wish someone could give me a hit haha.

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
One time I fell asleep on an acid comeup, and it took way longer for me to feel any effects when I woke up, though my friends who stayed awake were tripping hard. I never got to a good level either, even though I took the same amount as they did.

The first time I ate mushrooms, it literally took 3 hours for any distinct effects to come on. I felt a little funny, and we watched an entire movie. then we went to the park and walked around for a while. THEN I started tripping, and it lasted for a full six hours. This happened on mushrooms once more, a few years later.

No one knows all the factors that affect comeup and duration. It is much more likely that a long lasting psychedelic phenethylamine would take a lot longer to kick in than a tryptamine, but this ISN'T WRITTEN IN STONE.



Same thing happened to me on my first mushroom trip, I think I only tripped for about 2-3 hours though, but it's hard to say. I just didn't feel it for a good 3 hours though, and then bam, outta no where I came up in less than 10 minutes and was tripping nuts. As I recall I came down about 1:30-2 hours later, but like I said, it was awhile back now and who knows how my sense of time was even.

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Re: How Are You Supposed To Know? [Re: krypto2000]
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To summarize for the OP:
If it tasted VERY bitter it was most likely not LSD.
If it took significantly longer than 60 minutes to kick in it was most likely not LSD.
If it lasted significantly longer than 12 hours it was most likely not LSD.
If it felt very "dirty" with strong headaches/cramps/dry heaving it was most likely not LSD (least reliable criterion).

None of these are 100% foolproof but you should be able to get a pretty good picture by observing these simple traits.
And pls everyone stop talking about that Black light nonsense, just for your information, normal paper glows blue when held under black light.
On another note from my personal experience RCs on blotter arent as common as people make them out to be, if there is no strong argument speaking AGAINST LSD (5 hour come up for example) it most probably was Acid.

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