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Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa?
    #21686484 - 05/16/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

tl;dr picked up a alleged double dosed sugar cube of Tasteless liquid L for 30 immediately I should have realized this guy was giving me the bunk shit because he had said something about using whiskey as a solvent, but as the situation that I was put in I just took it and boy do I gotta say I got major spazaning in the back of my thighs and felt kinda like cringing at times this definitely wasn't LSD although I've never done the real stuff and I have had 25-I (which I don't recommend either) about 10 times in the course of a year and 3 months. I knew there was some resemblance to 25-I in the way that I felt mentally but for a double drop it was weaker than one stamp of 25-I.

I'd like help trying to identify what I might have taken last night.
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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: UncleFester]
    #21686801 - 05/16/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

LSD is tasteless, but using whiskey as a solvent? That's weird as shit.

Best thing you can do is get a test kit. Seriously, it's a great investment and it's cheap. Test kit is the only way to actually know.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Kinshino]
    #21686904 - 05/16/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Did you feel any tightness in your legs? My experience with LSA trips have always included long onset times (sometimes up to 3 hours) and always a tightening of my cardiovascular system, especially within my legs/crotch area.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Kinshino]
    #21686921 - 05/16/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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LSD is tasteless, but using whiskey as a solvent? That's weird as shit.

Best thing you can do is get a test kit. Seriously, it's a great investment and it's cheap. Test kit is the only way to actually know.




Sadly, testing kits wontt work with sugar cubes becuase the sugar interacts with the test and gives mixed readings.

Your best bet is dissolving the cubes in a cup of filtered or bottled water (no tap water!) and sipping it for taste and effect.

Having LSA being sold as Acid is very unlikely. But i guess its still possible :shrug:

LSA typically feels sedating, dreamy and surreal with little/subtle visuals.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: awkwardgiraffe]
    #21687732 - 05/16/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Did you feel any tightness in your legs? My experience with LSA trips have always included long onset times (sometimes up to 3 hours) and always a tightening of my cardiovascular system, especially within my legs/crotch area.



Yeah that's exactly what happened, I feel ok now but that really had me worried I thought I was having some kind of bad reaction


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21687756 - 05/16/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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LSD is tasteless, but using whiskey as a solvent? That's weird as shit.

Best thing you can do is get a test kit. Seriously, it's a great investment and it's cheap. Test kit is the only way to actually know.




Sadly, testing kits wontt work with sugar cubes becuase the sugar interacts with the test and gives mixed readings.

Your best bet is dissolving the cubes in a cup of filtered or bottled water (no tap water!) and sipping it for taste and effect.

Having LSA being sold as Acid is very unlikely. But i guess its still possible :shrug:

LSA typically feels sedating, dreamy and surreal with little/subtle visuals.



I swear you guys are definitely on point on how this shit was, this dude said he's had his L tested before and come up good, but I think it's bullshit what he's been telling me. Either way I'm not going to be buying from this guy again simply because I think he's full of shit and generally doesn't care about the safety of his customers. People like this deserve to be taught a lesson..


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: UncleFester]
    #21688367 - 05/16/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You could ditch him, OR give him another chance.

Could ask him to drop some of the "acid" on some paper. Even a square of computer paper will work.

That way, u can use your erlich test on without sugar interacting with the reagent.

If he refuses to do it, then dont buy, hes likely hiding something, like the fact it could be an RC.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21688685 - 05/16/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well I can tell you it's not LSA.:lol:
Ok so maybe I don't know that 100%, but come on.. Even if it were I'd highly doubt that it'd end up on sugar cubes.
Sounds like a low dose of a rc, anyone's guess which one


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #21692138 - 05/17/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Is there any site that reports their effects on the body and mind?


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: UncleFester] * 1
    #21692741 - 05/17/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

LSD gives lots of people muscle cramps/tightness, but it would have felt awesome instead of shitty if it was LSD


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21692796 - 05/17/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i have done real LSD and LSA and the bigest difrance is that LSA cramps feel like they hurt on LSD cramps just feel akwured like you question should i be feeling this this is wierd not ow my arm feels sore but the bigest difrance is that LSD will make you hallucinate like crazy but using wisky as a solvent it sounds like he dident know what he was doing LSD needs no sunlight air or chemicals its not a very stable chemical adding wisky sounds stupid and it would most likly destroy it


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21693726 - 05/18/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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LSD gives lots of people muscle cramps/tightness, but it would have felt awesome instead of shitty if it was LSD


yeah like an hour in I was feeling a little light and what not but then my thighs started spazaning a bit on both sides and fuck this shit has made me get much more smaller spazams in my thighs since I came down yesterday night. Also my back felt sore and my organs didn't feel right


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21693756 - 05/18/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'd want to buy a test kit to call this dude out if it is fake. Damn at the same time I know finding out it's fake and being lied to will make me want to hurt the dude that sold it to me. The guy seems nice and he's said he had one a few days ago but that could just be lies.the funny part is I was going to resell the sugar cube and someone actually wanted to buy it, but I took it before they could reply and next morning I sent them a message with something along the lines of "Dude I would've felt like the worst person in the world for selling you that cube"

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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: UncleFester]
    #21693843 - 05/18/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

the whiskey as a solvent (which is unheard of, when using ethanol solvents you don't use brown liqours) leads me to believe he was speaking of LSA, I used to perform EtOH extracts on ipomea seeds using everclear. Maybe he was talking about EtOH LSA extraction.

LSA isn't psychedelic, its an intoxicant, but there's nothing particularly psychedelic or LSD like about it, so if it was LSA I'm sure you would have known.

If someone offered me LSD, but said something like "whiskey was involved in its production" I would have known that even if this person did obtain LSD, that they don't know anything about it, and should not be listened to.

NBOMes are scary, you can buy LSD field tests on amazon.com, plus there are little things you can do, such as place the suspect compound under a black light, LSD glows (so does LSA though...) where NBOMe compounds and DOx compounds do not glow, or if you place it in your mouth and you taste anything, spit it out! LSD is tasteless, sometimes you will taste something slightly metalic, but it should be barley perceptible.

There are also xxx-LAD and LSx compounds being sold as LSD, or other lysergamides like 1P-LSD, though I love these compounds, I don't like being told they are LSD.

Regardless be careful! Because LSD may be safe, but the compounds being sold as LSD can be quite dangerous! Test your compounds in any way you can! Some websites like www.ecstasydata.org will even GC/MS suspect LSD.


(Some of the research chemical vendors are rigging their analogue compounds to field test positive for the compounds they are being sold as, so you really should be sure your getting your compounds from a trusted source who knows what they are doing....rather than a person feeding you nonsense stories about whiskey and LSD....)

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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21693985 - 05/18/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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the whiskey as a solvent (which is unheard of, when using ethanol solvents you don't use brown liqours) leads me to believe he was speaking of LSA, I used to perform EtOH extracts on ipomea seeds using everclear. Maybe he was talking about EtOH LSA extraction.

LSA isn't psychedelic, its an intoxicant, but there's nothing particularly psychedelic or LSD like about it, so if it was LSA I'm sure you would have known.

-E. Borodin




Umm, LSA is actually a psychedelic. Thats why its a sub-category in "The Psychedelic Experience".

And LSA can be LSD-like, but only in high doses.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21697522 - 05/19/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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the whiskey as a solvent (which is unheard of, when using ethanol solvents you don't use brown liqours) leads me to believe he was speaking of LSA, I used to perform EtOH extracts on ipomea seeds using everclear. Maybe he was talking about EtOH LSA extraction.

LSA isn't psychedelic, its an intoxicant, but there's nothing particularly psychedelic or LSD like about it, so if it was LSA I'm sure you would have known.

-E. Borodin




Umm, LSA is actually a psychedelic. Thats why its a sub-category in "The Psychedelic Experience".

And LSA can be LSD-like, but only in high doses.




Lysergic acid amide or LSA is a schedule 3 compound as a seditive.

Ive taken pure LSA in every dose range and only obtained an unpleasent intoxication every time, as did those in my circle, maybe some tracers in the visual field, maybe some eyesclosed imagery, but nothing LSD like, or even particularly psychedelic, it was being intoxicated...I'm sure that's why the DEA scheduled it as a seditive (they were actually going after it as a precursor, which is why it was scheduled to begin with)

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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21697627 - 05/19/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I had a similar experience last week and on what was supposedly a 500 microgram dose. had a heavy body load with tight stomach and sore back for a solid 2 hours and off and on up to 4 hours. at one point I was rubbing my lower back and going damn I hope I'm OK? I quickly dismissed that anddrank a bunch of water and moved along with my trip. left me pretty f****** worn out at the end. I did an earlich test but it was inconclusive turning a sort of amber color. it was on white blotter so I'm not sure if the blotter thred the color  off or something. anyways I'm really interested in achieving the LSD high that I hear some people speak of. according to most that 500 micrograms should have put me on the floor. it was intense and bizarre but I knew where I was at and was fine to move and dance around the house and yard. interesting gnosis.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21701548 - 05/20/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I had a similar experience last week and on what was supposedly a 500 microgram dose. had a heavy body load with tight stomach and sore back for a solid 2 hours and off and on up to 4 hours. at one point I was rubbing my lower back and going damn I hope I'm OK? I quickly dismissed that anddrank a bunch of water and moved along with my trip. left me pretty f****** worn out at the end. I did an earlich test but it was inconclusive turning a sort of amber color. it was on white blotter so I'm not sure if the blotter thred the color  off or something. anyways I'm really interested in achieving the LSD high that I hear some people speak of. according to most that 500 micrograms should have put me on the floor. it was intense and bizarre but I knew where I was at and was fine to move and dance around the house and yard. interesting gnosis.





500ugs should have turned your brain inside-out.

I have had 500-700ugs experiances that left me in a state of awe for days afterwards.

There's so much imposter dose out there that most of this newer generation isn't ever actually getting to experiance LSD, they think they have, but in reality they were given some savage analogue....and then they tell people "the LSD promoters are full of shit!".....when in reality the LSD promoters were only 25% full of shit when describing what LSD could do....

LSD is rare, and analogues are rampant.....I don't care if people say William Leonard pickard was a scum-bag, at least he was manufacturing in quantities suitable for national distribution, Casey hardison went to the UK and then prison in the UK, nick sand fled to Canada, got caught again, then did his time and retired, all the classic chemists from sands day are retired , or dead or in jail...

..I mean there are a hand-full of clandestine micro-labs still around, but distribution has really fallen appart....people use the good name of LSD to sell analogues that are not fit for human consumption
(though n-acetyl-lsd, 1p-LSD, the LSx series, the xxx-LAD series, I actually really love, just not when they are sold as LSD....I like the DOx series as well, but again, not when I'm told its LSD.....its the N-benzyl-methoxy-phenethylamines (NBOMe's) that I really dislike, dangerous stuff.


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21701692 - 05/20/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I had a similar experience last week and on what was supposedly a 500 microgram dose. had a heavy body load with tight stomach and sore back for a solid 2 hours and off and on up to 4 hours. at one point I was rubbing my lower back and going damn I hope I'm OK? I quickly dismissed that anddrank a bunch of water and moved along with my trip. left me pretty f****** worn out at the end. I did an earlich test but it was inconclusive turning a sort of amber color. it was on white blotter so I'm not sure if the blotter thred the color  off or something. anyways I'm really interested in achieving the LSD high that I hear some people speak of. according to most that 500 micrograms should have put me on the floor. it was intense and bizarre but I knew where I was at and was fine to move and dance around the house and yard. interesting gnosis.





500ugs should have turned your brain inside-out.

I have had 500-700ugs experiances that left me in a state of awe for days afterwards.

There's so much imposter dose out there that most of this newer generation isn't ever actually getting to experiance LSD, they think they have, but in reality they were given some savage analogue....and then they tell people "the LSD promoters are full of shit!".....when in reality the LSD promoters were only 25% full of shit when describing what LSD could do....

LSD is rare, and analogues are rampant.....I don't care if people say William Leonard pickard was a scum-bag, at least he was manufacturing in quantities suitable for national distribution, Casey hardison went to the UK and then prison in the UK, nick sand fled to Canada, got caught again, then did his time and retired, all the classic chemists from sands day are retired , or dead or in jail...

..I mean there are a hand-full of clandestine micro-labs still around, but distribution has really fallen appart....people use the good name of LSD to sell analogues that are not fit for human consumption
(though n-acetyl-lsd, 1p-LSD, the LSx series, the xxx-LAD series, I actually really love, just not when they are sold as LSD....I like the DOx series as well, but again, not when I'm told its LSD.....its the N-benzyl-methoxy-phenethylamines (NBOMe's) that I really dislike, dangerous stuff.


....if I ever got LSA as LSD I would be furious! I consider LSA an unpleasent intoxicating agent, while LSD is the key to beautiful neurochemical pathways.)

-E. Borodin




......great info bro :-)! This is how I feel about it exactly. I've been L four times in the last 2 months and I honestly have no f****** idea If I'm getting anythingthat's worth a f***.damn it I wanted to turn my brain inside out! :-)

  I had some liquid that I tested and it turned purple. but really didn't kick my ass even on 4 drops on sweettarts. then I scored some blotter on white from a friend. when I tested a small piece it turned an amber color which I really don't know what that means at all. my friend said they were 200 micrograms hit or 500 for the two and a half that I took. it seems from the descriptions I have read that I should have been completely floored by that dosage. it was weird and visual but I was in control of myself and wasn't overwhelmed by visuals or anything like that. plus the body load was quite comfortable especially in the first 90 minutes.


  Dammit! I really wanna trip on some good L and I feel like the stuff has taken over the last couple months was kind of mediocre. I just hate how I never have any idea where it comes from or who made it or any of that. Definitely sounds like 500 micrograms should have hammered me a little bit harder.

  .....I think the best s*** I've ever had was from some good Grateful Dead kids back in 2000 or so. that was about the last time I tried it. Those were some fun days. Took a long hiatus and then now back to the psychedelic experience. really want to get some good gnosis  on L but it's been a bit of a confusing experience. Anyways, thanks for all the info :-)!


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Re: Tasteless potentially fake lsd maybe lsa? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21705529 - 05/21/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Vodoochild, sometimes its the search that makes the experiance worthwhile, if you are looking for something, you WILL eventually find it, but pay attention along the way....

The real experiances and the real compounds ARE out there, but your more likley to search when your uncertian....

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....I'm actually somewhat glad that real experiances are so rare, it gives them depth and meaning they would have lacked otherwise....I don't want to get into synchronicity, but its amazing the effect these things have on the world around you......in an old drawing of the alchemists lab, the words "Dormiens vigila" are writen on sign above the door, it means "while sleeping, watch"....and that's my best advice to anybody seeking the real experiance.



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