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Week 1 observations
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Week1:

Opening week is, perhaps, the most exciting time for most NFL fans.  Sure if you are a spoiled fan of the Steelers, Colts, or Patriots you might feel that the post season is a foregone conclusion and therefore be looking towards January already (more on that later). But for everyone else week one is the start of exhilaration and heart break. A time when all fans are equal, and when we finally get to see our teams in real action and learn if the preseason hype is the real deal. Week one, or the time immediately following week one, is also a time of hyperbole and over reaction, its important to keep in mind that this was only one game; and just because your team lost or won doesn't mean the Super Bowl or The number one pick is assured. That being said here are some of the things that we did learn:

1)Carolina is in trouble. The Panthers (who I preemptively picked to finish last in their division) just gave Delhomme a contract extension with nearly $20M guaranteed. He paid them back by throwing four interceptions and dropping one fumble. In his last seven quarters (going back to the post season game last year) Delhomme has thrown Nine, (thats “9”) interceptions! With only Josh McCown (who was hurt late in the game) and Matt Moore behind him, unless Delhomme can return to form this looks like a very long season for Panther fans.

2)Baltimore's defense looked less formidable without Coordinator Rex Ryan and LB Bart Scott. They gave up 16 points to the Chief's offense (one TD came from a blocked punt)  without Matt Cassell and made Brodie Croyle, who looked horrendous last year,  look like an NFL caliber starter – Allowing him to throw two touchdowns without forcing a single Interception – Baltimore still won, but it was their offense, not their defense, that got them the win.

3)The Bengals proved why they are the Bengals.  They finally have Carson Palmer back healthy, they have a winnable week one match up and what happens?  With thirty seconds left Leon Hall makes a good defensive play blocking Orton's pass to Brandon Marshall and Stokley comes out of no where to grab the ball and run it in for the touchdown and the win. This makes you ask the question: is there any fan more tortured and pathetic then Bengals fans?

4)Yes, they are called Bills fans. Does any team lose more games in the final seconds then the Bills? Last year it was the J.P. Losmann fumble against the Jets. The year before that it was the Monday Night Football game against the Cowboys where the Bills were up eight points late in the forth quarter, Romo threw a touchdown but the game appeared to be over when the Cowboys missed the two point conversion, a onside kick and a field goal later and the Bills had somehow squandered a 24 – 13 lead in the forth quarter alone. Then of course, there is the Music City Mircle, where a one yard forward pass disguised as a lateral during the last second kickoff, booted the Bills out of their last playoff run, this added with Norwood's “Wide Right” and the other three SuperBowl loses makes you wonder if God, or someone up there, really does hate the Bills. Well you can add Last Night's Monday Night game against the Pats to the list of evidence. Up by 11 with just over two minutes left the Bills allowed Tom Brady to score a touchdown. A missed two point conversion later and it looked as if the Pats were going to have to hang their hopes on a onside kick. They elected not to, and kicked the ball deep, Buffalo's kick return specialist Leodis McKelvin  could have kneeled it down in the end zone for a touchback and let his offense ice the game. Instead he tried to return it, fumbled the ball and gave the Patriots great field posistion with over a minute left. Tom Brady did his Tom Brady impersonation and scored a touchdown, winning the game, and keeping their twelve straight against the Bills streak alive. Is there any other team that this would have happened to?

5)Speaking of the Monday night games, The NFL schedule makers are smarter then you, and me. When I first saw the NFL schedule and looked at the first set of Monday games I thought the NFL was getting lazy. Here were two matchups, The Bills versus The Pats and The Chargers versus The Raiders that included two divisional games where the favorites had beaten the under dogs eleven in a row. The games looked as if they were going to be blow outs to the third degree, the kind of games that would force you to relinquish the remote to your wife or girlfriend so she can turn it to “Gossip Girl.” Instead we got two of the best games all week, and while the outcomes were as expected, the way they got there was most unexpected. I can't believe I am saying this but, Thank you NFL for putting the Raiders and Bills on Monday Night.

6)Mark Sanchez did not look like a rookie last night.  Against a tough defense Sanchez threw for 272 yards and one touchdown. He certainly did not look like someone who only had 16 starts in college.  He had an interception late but then on the following drive drove the Jets down the field for the score.  This shows that he has the ability forget his mistakes, something that is important in the NFL, and his mobility to avoid the pass rush was also impressive. He has a bigger test next week against the Pats, but Jets fans are feeling much better about that now then they were 72 hours ago.

7)The advancement of Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco will continue this year. Both shouldered bigger parts of their offense then last year and both had passer ratings over  95. I doubt the “sophomore slump” will hit either of these guys.

8)Brett Farve will do good if he can stop himself from throwing the ball to much. So long as Adrian Peterson is still Adrian Peterson the Vikings will move the ball more on the ground then the the through the air.  If Farve can just manage a game and keep his shoulder healthy for the end of the season, Minnesota will be a force in the NFC.

9)LaDainian Tomlinson looked old. I felt that he would have a comeback year this season, after hearing that he was healthy and seeing how angry he was with all the doubters. But against the Raiders he only gained 55 yards on the ground and Sproles looked much more effective. I am still sticking by him (and keeping him in my fantasy team line up) but if he doesn't get it going in a few weeks look for his career to end by the end of next season. If he can get it going next week at home against Baltimore then he will look like his old self.

10) The Steelers, Patriots, and Colts all have concerns. Granted, they all won their opener, but Tom Brady looked rusty, The Steelers' O-line looked suspect and the Colts' Offense looked anemic against a team that won five games last season. Fans that are used to seeing their teams go to the play offs every year (and yes, I know the Pats missed it last season, but Patriot fans will tell you its because they lost Tom Brady) have some cause for concern. I think all three of these teams will figure it out, but it is less of a sure thing then normal.

Now we wait for week two to see how many of these observations are totally wrong.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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Very good.  Very, very good.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: zappaisgod]
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This makes you ask the question: is there any fan more tortured and pathetic then Bengals fans?



Bills, Lions


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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Delhomme is fucking up my fucking fantasy game, Steve Smith was one of my top picks so it's both a waste of a top pick and I can't drop him:crankey:

I'm still hesitant to start receivers against the Baltimore D just yet.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
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Penguarky Tunguin said:
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This makes you ask the question: is there any fan more tortured and pathetic then Bengals fans?



Bills, Lions



Read his post. He answers the questions with the Bills.
THE most tortured team of football, and potentially all of sports period.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: jewunit]
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Nope, he sure did not.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
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Penguarky Tunguin said:
Nope, he sure did not.




Uh, are you sure about that?

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This makes you ask the question: is there any fan more tortured and pathetic then Bengals fans?

4)Yes, they are called Bills fans.




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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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As a Bills fan I can say unequivocally that I am not tortured.  But I'm old.  Most of you were damn near fetuses when they were great.  And they were.  There were just usually teams a touch better than them in the Super Bowl, except the first year.  I don't blame Norwood, either.  Every Bills fan knew that was out of his range.  Not impossible but not likely.  My ire in that game fell squarely on Andre Reed who got popped early and then developed the worst case of alligator arms I have ever seen impact a game. 

The last couple of stupidities don't really bother me because I have zero expectations for them.  Well, losing to the fucking Jets always sucks because they have, bar none, the stupidest fans on earth.  I hate them and want them to feel pain.  The only thing better than watching a despondent Jets fan is watching a despondent Red Sox fan.  That's some quality schadenfreude right there, I tell ya'.  Music City sucked (I think it was an illegal lateral but it was damn close) but then there was that Houston game where they made the greatest comeback ever in the history of the playoffs.  There are several teams that never played in one Supe, let alone 4.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
As a Bills fan I can say unequivocally that I am not tortured.  But I'm old.  Most of you were damn near fetuses when they were great.  And they were.  There were just usually teams a touch better than them in the Super Bowl, except the first year.  I don't blame Norwood, either.  Every Bills fan knew that was out of his range.  Not impossible but not likely.  My ire in that game fell squarely on Andre Reed who got popped early and then developed the worst case of alligator arms I have ever seen impact a game. 

The last couple of stupidities don't really bother me because I have zero expectations for them.  Well, losing to the fucking Jets always sucks because they have, bar none, the stupidest fans on earth.  I hate them and want them to feel pain.  The only thing better than watching a despondent Jets fan is watching a despondent Red Sox fan.  That's some quality schadenfreude right there, I tell ya'.  Music City sucked (I think it was an illegal lateral but it was damn close) but then there was that Houston game where they made the greatest comeback ever in the history of the playoffs.  There are several teams that never played in one Supe, let alone 4.




Well, 47 yards is pretty far, I guess, but most Bills fans I know hate Norwood with a passion, if I even mention his name the conversation takes a dark turn.

But it seems like the Bills have always come close but never make it. Had I been a Bills fan during those four super bowls I would have stopped watching football all together. I have yet to see my team in a superbowl but if they went and lost I am sure I would likely get into fights, maybe break some public property and likely end up in jail.

If that happened four years in a row I have no idea how I would handle it, I expect I would move to some country where they never even heard of football and live the rest of my life as a weird, isolated, hermit, and any mention of Bills or Buffalo would send me into a frenzied state of violence and jabbering profanities.

Your right in that some teams have yet to go to a super bowl, and so in a way they have had a harder time then you guys, but personally I would rather not get a sniff then to be so close and failed so many times. It'd be like having sex with a really hot chick but every time you do it, right before you bust, her over protective father runs in the room and chases you out of the house.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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Sombie said:
zappaisgod said:
As a Bills fan I can say unequivocally that I am not tortured.  But I'm old.  Most of you were damn near fetuses when they were great.  And they were.  There were just usually teams a touch better than them in the Super Bowl, except the first year.  I don't blame Norwood, either.  Every Bills fan knew that was out of his range.  Not impossible but not likely.  My ire in that game fell squarely on Andre Reed who got popped early and then developed the worst case of alligator arms I have ever seen impact a game. 

The last couple of stupidities don't really bother me because I have zero expectations for them.  Well, losing to the fucking Jets always sucks because they have, bar none, the stupidest fans on earth.  I hate them and want them to feel pain.  The only thing better than watching a despondent Jets fan is watching a despondent Red Sox fan.  That's some quality schadenfreude right there, I tell ya'.  Music City sucked (I think it was an illegal lateral but it was damn close) but then there was that Houston game where they made the greatest comeback ever in the history of the playoffs.  There are several teams that never played in one Supe, let alone 4.




Well, 47 yards is pretty far, I guess, but most Bills fans I know hate Norwood with a passion, if I even mention his name the conversation takes a dark turn.



Wow, that's really odd because when they came back from the SB he was cheered at the airport and from my experience, and I probably know far more Bills fans than you, one's who actually were old enough to be fans at the time of the game, and theer isn't a single one who faults Norwood.  Not even one.  Everybody knew that was out of his normal range.
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But it seems like the Bills have always come close but never make it. Had I been a Bills fan during those four super bowls I would have stopped watching football all together. I have yet to see my team in a superbowl but if they went and lost I am sure I would likely get into fights, maybe break some public property and likely end up in jail.


  That's dumb.  Sorry, but that's the only way I can think of it.
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If that happened four years in a row I have no idea how I would handle it, I expect I would move to some country where they never even heard of football and live the rest of my life as a weird, isolated, hermit, and any mention of Bills or Buffalo would send me into a frenzied state of violence and jabbering profanities.



Might I suggest you discuss with your doctor a prescription for Plaxil?
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Your right in that some teams have yet to go to a super bowl, and so in a way they have had a harder time then you guys, but personally I would rather not get a sniff then to be so close and failed so many times. It'd be like having sex with a really hot chick but every time you do it, right before you bust, her over protective father runs in the room and chases you out of the house.



But you'll always have the memory to beat off to.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: zappaisgod]
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LOL You are delusional if you think Bills fans love Norwood. Him, along with Bartman and Buckner (who was recently forgiven by redsox fans) are the most hated men in their respective sports towns.

And no, I doubt you know more Bills fans then me, even "old" ones, (although you don't have to be that old to remember them) I lived in upstate ny for 7 years, and they all hate Norwood. I would agree that it is unjustified, and I admire that you can look at it objectively, but most Bills fans I know can't look at a red napkin objectively, much less their Super Bowl losses. So unless you live in Buffalo. . .

You just sound like someone who is mad someone besides you talked bad about your bills.

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I am not the least bit sold on anything good about them and continue to be disgusted beyond belief that they keep blowing games like that.  Repeated examples of legendary stupidity like last year's Lohsmann fumble and the stunning inability to secure a kickoff are just highlights of their abysmal lack of intelligence.  I can only believe that in a game of rock paper scissors they will always lose.



Still stand by that, or was it just written in the heat of the moment?


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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In my experience Bills fans from Western or Central New York cities not named Buffalo aren't like fans actually from Buffalo and the surrounding area.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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Sombie said:
LOL You are delusional if you think Bills fans love Norwood. Him, along with Bartman and Buckner (who was recently forgiven by redsox fans) are the most hated men in their respective sports towns.



I think I know a little more about it than you.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=questions/timrussert\

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9. Ley: Let's play a little word association. If I say two words to you, what do they mean: Wide right.

Nightmare. Scott Norwood came up to me in Washington National Reagan Airport and said, "Mr. Russert, I want to introduce myself. I'm Scott Norwood." I said, "Scott, I know who you are. I think about you every night." I was at the game and then I went to Buffalo the next morning, where 25,000 Buffalonians greeted the Bills and all chanted, "We want Scott! We want Scott!" Scott got to the podium and cried, and Buffalo still embraced him. Which is a lot different than what happened with Booth Lusteg, another field-goal kicker with the Buffalo Bills who missed a field goal at the Rock Pile, walked home from the stadium and two guys got out of a car and beat the hell out of him.




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And no, I doubt you know more Bills fans then me, even "old" ones, (although you don't have to be that old to remember them) I lived in upstate ny for 7 years, and they all hate Norwood. I would agree that it is unjustified, and I admire that you can look at it objectively, but most Bills fans I know can't look at a red napkin objectively, much less their Super Bowl losses. So unless you live in Buffalo. . .



I lived in upstate NY a good deal longer than you.
Your friends are idiots.  The game was 20 years ago.  There may be a bunch of 30 somethings who were 12 then who are mad but no Bills fan who was an adult then blamed Norwood that I know of.
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You just sound like someone who is mad someone besides you talked bad about your bills.



No, just that your facts are wrong.  And I'm not mad.  Not at you.  Not at Norwood.  Like I said, I blamed Andre Reed far more.  He basically took himself out of any useful role by getting the worst case of alligator arms I have ever seen.  That was really disappointing.
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I am not the least bit sold on anything good about them and continue to be disgusted beyond belief that they keep blowing games like that.  Repeated examples of legendary stupidity like last year's Lohsmann fumble and the stunning inability to secure a kickoff are just highlights of their abysmal lack of intelligence.  I can only believe that in a game of rock paper scissors they will always lose.



Still stand by that, or was it just written in the heat of the moment?



I stand by it.  I can't believe how fucking stupid they are.  The late 80s early 90s Bills weren't morons.  Except Thurman Thomas who forgot his fucking helmet on the first play of a Super Bowl and had to sit it out.  The first play, not the whole game.  Their drafting has also been abysmal.  Mike Williams whatthefuck.  There is not one person left who was involved then.  Marv Levy was a brilliant coach and they drafted incredibly well then.  Since?  Not so much.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: zappaisgod]
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Perhaps you are right, that it is younger Bills Fans who hate Norwood, but I remember hearing an interview on ESPN radio with Jim Kelly and he sounded kind of pissed at him. When he was asked if he was angry or dissapointed that he never won the big one he said something to the effect of "Well, I got my team where a lot of quarterbacks get their team and win, but because of one guy we lost" I don't have a source for that because it was just a random interview (maybe on Scott Van Pelt or The Pulse) so I guess you can chose to believe me or not. And he didn't sound that mad at Norwood, maybe just the idea of kickers and field goals all together.

Still, I think you would be wrong to say that there isn't a very large segment of Bills fans angry at Norwood, justified or not.

And it doesn't change the fact that you guys seem to be tortured a lot. It was only a passing comment in my article (or whatever that is) meant to rib you guys a little bit. But you have to admit, it is pretty tough being a Bills Fan.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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I'm not that invested in them.  Yankees, yes.  Football?  Not so much.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: zappaisgod]
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Yeah, WS is almost guaranteed at this point.

We just need AJ to straighten out. (for the record I have been ignoring them since football started, has he gotten back to his normal dominate self yet?)


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: Sombie]
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He seems to have an annoying habit of getting shelled in one inning.  He'll pitch five clean innings but give up 5 runs in one inning somewhere along the way.  I think he'll get straightened out.  Pettitte is skipping a start with a tired shoulder but I think that will be fine as well.


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Re: Week 1 observations [Re: zappaisgod]
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Well, he starts today (AJ) so hopefully he does good.

I don't want another post season with one ace and Andy Pettie (as good as he has been).

We were supposed to have three this year (counting Chin-mein-wang) and now we might be down to one.

Maybe they will get Joba on a decent, consistent schedule before the post season and then he'll look better to.


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