Coaster said:

having competition always lowers costs and increases quality

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Coaster said:

having competition always lowers costs and increases quality

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there are too many people not being covered and by covering them
we will have preventative care which lowers costs
and we will make it all easy to access for doctors so that will also lower costs

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Prisoner#1 said:

Coaster said:

having competition always lowers costs and increases quality

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wal-mart, they eliminate competition and sell a shoddy product
the 'formula' cant be said for medicine, hell it doesnt even apply
to products any more

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there are too many people not being covered and by covering them
we will have preventative care which lowers costs
and we will make it all easy to access for doctors so that will also lower costs

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are we to expect that prices will drop, most hospitals will still be
privately owned, also keep in mind that if 45 million americans dont
have private health care that means 265million americans do, with 43
million being on medicare and another 53 million people were enrolled in
medicaid, it seems we have a surplus of insured people


maybe you shouldnt listen to obamas numbers any more

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2009/06/45-million-americans-without-health.html

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Coaster said:

how come we are the only industrialized country without socialized medicine
our life expectancy is so low

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Rustifer said:

With those numbers pris, only 50% of american's have private health insurance, Medicare and Medicaid are run by the goverment.

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akira_akuma said:

lol, political jargon is irritating. canada has plenty of people! >_>

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ShockValue said:

So are you suggesting that we just lower the Medicare age limit to 0?

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Estate Recovery and Liens
Under Medicaid law, following the death of the Medicaid recipient a state must attempt to recover from his or her estate whatever benefits it paid for the recipient's care. However, no recovery can take place until the death of the recipient's spouse, or as long as there is a child of the deceased who is under age 21 or who is blind or disabled.

While states must attempt to recover funds from the Medicaid recipient's probate estate, meaning property that is held in the beneficiary's name only, they have the option of seeking recovery against property in which the recipient had an interest but which passes outside of probate. This includes jointly held assets, assets in a living trust, or life estates. Given the rules for Medicaid eligibility, the only probate property of substantial value that a Medicaid recipient is likely to own at death is his or her home. However, states that have not opted to broaden their estate recovery to include non-probate assets may not make a claim against the Medicaid recipient's home if it is not in his or her probate estate.

In addition to the right to recover from the estate of the Medicaid beneficiary, state Medicaid agencies must place a lien on real estate owned by a Medicaid beneficiary during her life unless certain dependent relatives are living in the property. If the property is sold while the Medicaid beneficiary is living, not only will she cease to be eligible for Medicaid due to the cash she would net from the sale, but she would have to satisfy the lien by paying back the state for its coverage of her care to date. The exceptions to this rule are cases where a spouse, a disabled or blind child, a child under age 21, or a sibling with an equity interest in the house is living there.

Whether or not a lien is placed on the house, the lien's purpose should only be for recovery of Medicaid expenses if the house is sold during the beneficiary's life. The lien should be removed upon the beneficiary's death. However, check with an elder law specialist in your state to see how your local agency applies this federal rule.

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akira_akuma said:

>_>

*jughead eyes*

so, does that make you better huh?! *US gives Canada a noogie*

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Rustifer said:

What percentage of the 50% of America's that do have private health insurance, have adequate coverage?
Now that I'm understanding? Please ... I was either correcting you're mistake, or you're misunderstanding. You're the one who said that 250 Americans had private health insurance.

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akira_akuma said:

LOL, you're a funny seemingly convicted guy. you've convinced me, our frozen wasteland must be handed over.

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