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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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When Ythan was asked this question
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Say the local and or federal authorities are cruising the ole shroomery.org. And they happen to stumble upon Joe Blows cult grow log complete with pics.
If they were so inclined they could obtain a warrent/subpeona some shit like that to make Ythan give them our I.P./ Mac I.P. / and registration info. And he would because he would have to.

Would he then be so kind as to shoot us a few emails? Would he P.M> us and let us know?

Would I get a message saying " Hey homie, the cops just came and asked me for all of your info, so take care of your shit?

How about if they told him not to. Would he still do it?


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This was his (Ythans') reply   

Anonymous #1 said:
    Would he then be so kind as to shoot us a few emails? Would he P.M. us and let us know?



Of course, I don't want any members getting busted. Although in 12 years of operation it's never been a problem.

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    How about if they told him not to. Would he still do it?



Oh no, that would open me up to all kinds of charges of interfering with an investigation and whatnot. Definitely not. Never. Let that be on the permanent record. But if the info somehow got leaked through an anonymous remailer, I could hardly be held accountable.

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    Also remember, I have my suspicians that the shroomery not only stores your I.P. but your Mac address as well.



First of all MAC addresses are easily spoofed so that doesn't prove anything, second of all we have no way of collecting them without using Java applets (it was considered for puppet tracking purposes, and abandoned as impractical.)

But you guys seem to think the feds come and ask permission before seizing a server. Not so. I'd find out about it the same way as everyone else, when the site went offline. I might receive a courtesy notice from our host, but I really have no idea.

Basically it depends on the circumstances. I have no police record and I'm not engaged in any illicit activity. So if I have to sit in county jail for a week in contempt of court for keeping my mouth shut, it's a no brainer. I don't really get out that much anyway and I could use some time away from the computer. But if they're going to slap me with felony charges, seize all my assets, throw me in prison and make my life miserable until I give up the info, look, I don't like you guys that much. That's why we provide all these privacy tools, so you can protect your own identity. I'm not gonna be Bubba's bitch because you were too lazy to learn to use a proxy.


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: ThePheonix]
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"you cool? if so, I'd like to talk to you about K...- message header"

"what do you say"

user-crackbillionair


ban this stupid mother fucker. 

i have never even seen k :wink: but that is the dumbest fucking thing anyones tried to pull on me

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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: skatealex2]
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:facepalm:


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
i was also very happy to see that.

ruptured was scum.


hey now

no flameage

dont make me dumpo your thredo


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: notapillow]
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:froman:


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: lazyfingers]
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fuck the police.


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: AcidDropper420]
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fuck the police


Agreed


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: fatso]
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Well, naturally, they'd be snooping around. Have to leave to the government to be there at all times to protect us from ourselves...  :smoker:


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Green_T]
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Green_T said:
I really hope the government isn't wasting resources by browsing the internet and trying to catch people who are neither involved in organized crime nor harming anyone.

Don't they have better things to do, like trying to catch Bin Laden?


Yeah, but -- but that'd be hard and dangerous, and... cops might actually get hurt or off their donut schedule! (Also, Preznit Bush said Bin Laden was yesterday's news, Saddam was WAY trendier.)

Busting home growers and festival kids is much more fun, since we're not really criminals, and you can keep all our stuff as a reward when you're done busting us! Yay Drug War!


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: ChairmanMeow]
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i've gotten a few, ignored them all.

once i replied with that old "users with 'M' behind their name sell mushrooms and 'A' people sell acid, good luck" line.


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Bridgeburner]
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b0red5tiff said:
i've gotten a few, ignored them all.

once i replied with that old "users with 'M' behind their name sell mushrooms and 'A' people sell acid, good luck" line.


:curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: ChairmanMeow]
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Ive gotten a few pm's asking about getting some mushrooms. I just tell them to stop being lazy and to grow their own.


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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: ThePheonix]
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ThePheonix said:
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But shroomery cannot give out any private info such as email to anybody not even narcotics agents,



What? Are you serious. If you believe that then you WILL end up in jail.

That statement is 100% untrue.


it would take a court order to pry any information from the
hands of the administration, usually if it's to the point where they're
issuing subpoenas for the servers/logs then it's too late for whom ever
they intend to arrest and they'll likely already have access to that
persons computer... in the 11 years this board has been up and running
there's never been an arrest attributed to the shroomery and there's
never been a request by law enforcement for those records

so while it stands that his is incorrect about what they can and cannot
do, he's correct in his assumption that your information is safe unless
you're posting it all over the internet, the shroomery will not give it out


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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let me ask this then,

are there any indirect means the information can be pilfered from the exchange of data that takes place every time a reply or whatever is functioned?

if you need some clarification as to the gist of my question i will oblige.


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Statisticons_win]
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there's a lot of people that post their personal info, I've seen several
drivers licenses posted and know that they were the actual users license

from slightly more covert means your IP can be obtained by pictures that
are hot linked from other sites, for instance I can set up a server to
host images or even pages in order to collect IPs, I'd have to sift
through those IPs to find one in an area I'm looking in but then narrowing
it down as we have a few dozen posters that are active in my area which
would have me checking times of posters posts against the images views,
I'm sure there's a dozen other ways but that one is pretty simple, even
a cop could do it

there's a thread in Security & Safety regarding the protection of your
info, the use of proxies, etc, most of us advise everyone to make use of
that information and use TOR or something like Steganos Internet Anonym VPN


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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thanks for the lookout.


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Ban that piece of shit narcotics agent that PM'd him


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Trypthlyamine]
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Trypthlyamine said:
Well, naturally, they'd be snooping around. Have to leave to the government to be there at all times to protect us from ourselves...  :smoker:


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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I had a suspected narc pm me a few months ago
0 posts and had just registered

Left me an email and told me to email him and not pm him through this site.

I ignored it and 5 minutes later he pm'ed me again with a corrected email address

I was like, wtf scrub


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Re: Narcotics agents have found their way to the shroomery! [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
"you cool? if so, I'd like to talk to you about K...- message header"

"what do you say"

user-crackbillionair


ban this stupid mother fucker. 

i have never even seen k :wink: but that is the dumbest fucking thing anyones tried to pull on me



Thats fucking hilarious :rofl2: sounds like a wholesome white color moron trying to relate with peeps :rolleyes:


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