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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: rodfarva]
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Yeah I'm aware of the whole maduro thing I just didn't want to waste time writing an in depth post when theres hundreds of better written and more informative ones out there that are just a google search away. I just wanted to make the point that in general, darker leaf = stronger smoke, but there are obviously many more factors involved than just the wrapper. And I am also a big Acid fan, as well as CAO Flavors. Try a Moontrance if you get the chance, AMAZING!

And as far as the curlyhead, its a great, great cigar for the $1-3 it costs. However, it is definitely a beginner cigar and if you have more experience in cigar smoking there are definitely better options out there for you.

I should note that there is a Curlyhead and Curlyhead Deluxe. Don't be fooled by the "Deluxe". They are two totally separate cigars and the Deluxe is not as good as the original.

To the OP: Ashton, Perdomo, Rockey Patel, Fuente, Romeo y Julieta are all good, reputable manufacturers worth checking out.

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: benton]
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so what's the best for rolling a premium blunt? and why does even a phillie give a nice blunt-like feel (as far as not using marijuana goes)?  I'm just trying to understand thangs...i though somebody said phillies didn't actually use a tobacco leaf, just paper.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
rodfarva said:
They dont have shit on some $25 USD hand rolled Cubans IMO


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Fuente's are a great brand in terms of their production and quality control



Arturo Fuente, Punch, Romeo y Jullietta, Bolivar, all make good cigars and
some can also be had for just a few bucks each, all hand rolled from cuba
it's as simple as ordering from canada


True, i gave that site because the cubans you can get from Geneva (ironically the Cuban cigar capitol of the world) are cheaper than those from Canada alot of times. I really feel like nothing will ever beat my favorite cigar: the Cuban, Cohiba siglo VI $750 USD a box (25 cigars or $30 per stick) imported, or about $400 Canadian on the isle of Cuba.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
so what's the best for rolling a premium blunt? and why does even a phillie give a nice blunt-like feel (as far as not using marijuana goes)?  I'm just trying to understand thangs...i though somebody said phillies didn't actually use a tobacco leaf, just paper.


For a blunt? I think you mean like rolling weed in.. Its better to roll blunts with the paper mixed tobaccos like zigzag blunts, phillies, etc. They come flavored to go well with chronic and pure fermented tobacco leaves are way to harsh to smoke then hold in your lungs with some pot smoke. You will cough that shit out instantly unless your way hardcore. I rolled a blunt for a Willy Nelson concert a few months ago with a page from my LSAT study book, i have 100 cigars on hand, and no real blunt wraps. I figured straight paper would be better.

Smoking weed with willy was a life goal :smile:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Here are a few handmade cigars I would recommend for a beginner.  After you smoke these you will probably never want to smoke a machine made cigar again.

-Perdomo Reserve Champagne:  These are a good mild cigar that do not lack flavor like some mild cigars do.  They are a bit expensive though.

-Flor de Oliva/ Flor de Oliva Gold:  These are excellent bundle cigars (cheaper cigars packaged in cellophane bundles.)  The Golds are a bit milder.  I would recommend starting with these.

-5 Vegas/ 5 Vegas Gold:  Again, the gold brand is milder.  These are both worth trying.

-Padron: If you want something with a little more flavor and body try these.  Almost all Padrons are excellent cigars.  Try the milder cigars first though to get a feel for your tastes.

-Other brands:  I would recommend trying cigars from Fuente, Oliva, Don Pepin Garcia, Litto Gomez, Tatuaje, La Flor Dominicana and Illusione.  Many of these are very full flavored and full bodied however, so I suggest trying some of the milder cigars first to avoid being overwhelmed.

These are two of my favorite online cigar retailers, you will usually be able to find much better prices online than in a brick and mortar store.

http://famous-smoke.com/

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/setSrc.asp?skey=WEB&redirect=/index.asp&globalT=1

PS:  No matter what anyone tells you, never buy ANYTHING from Thompson Cigars.  Trust me on this one.

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: esyflyr]
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-Flor de Oliva/ Flor de Oliva Gold:  These are excellent bundle cigars (cheaper cigars packaged in cellophane bundles.)  The Golds are a bit milder.  I would recommend starting with these.


When i order (as opposed to wasting $ at the stores with their %50 markup) im almost exclusively a CI guy. Cigars international is the best in the business. I've been featured on their site (not to get to specific and reveal my identity.) The one and only problem i have with them really is that they DO NOT carry the flor de Oliva Gold. They have the full strength for sale, but they smell like wet horses in a pile of old boots. Im lucky enough to have a JR outlet nearby that stocks them for near internet pricing. I wouldnt pay more than $60 for the bundle, 40-50 is about right.

The flor de oliva gold is exceptional, but telling a beginner to buy a bundle, of which he will prolly take a month to finish would first require me recommending not using my favorite site (Cigars international,) then i would have to tell him they probably wont stay in good shape (humid) unless he shells out some dough for a humidor and hu. device and hygrometer (ok...he might already have a hygrometer, lol.) Thats why i didn't include this gem earlier, but believe me, it is the first cigar i would bust out if he was in my place right now for a smoke.


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-Padron: If you want something with a little more flavor and body try these.  Almost all Padrons are excellent cigars.  Try the milder cigars first though to get a feel for your tastes.

-Other brands:  I would recommend trying cigars from Fuente, Oliva, Don Pepin Garcia, Litto Gomez, Tatuaje, La Flor Dominicana and Illusione.  Many of these are very full flavored and full bodied however, so I suggest trying some of the milder cigars first to avoid being overwhelmed.


Im solidly impressed with your taste in a lot of ways. Now let me criticize it.
First off, padron cigars, are like olives either you like them or you dont. I've tried a handful and none of them did it for my pallet, however i couldn't outright say they were bad cigars. Padron smokers are there own kind IME, i dont share similar preference with them normally. It's weird, i know.

Recommending anything from OLIVA is dangerous, they have some HUGE bombs on the market right now. I dont know why people like them *ack* like i mentioned earlier the flor de oliva is wretched. NUB cigars are made by oliva and i really dont enjoy them. Its an odd experience and more attention was paid to the marketing and design than the flavor profile. I aged one for 6 months to see if it got better- it tasted worse than the first one.

In oliva's signature line there are some good smokes, but the flavor profiles vary wildly between sizes. They cost alot more than the flor de oliva gold, yet taste pretty much the same  (serie V that is.) I did not like the g or v maduros i got in a sampler. only tried one size, then smoked another different V and enjoyed it. Too much guessing.

Don peppin is awesome, i currently have a box of his Cuban classics. I really dont like them after the half way point tho, the flavor changes and becomes musty for lack of a better term. They are so strong after a long stay in my humidor that i never wanted to finish one anyway. They are BOLD.

You may not have known that Don Peppin Garcia blended the Tatuaje brand! (tatoo in spanish-wierd name ehh?)
He's a genius. Tatuaje is probably the best premium boutique cigar out today. The factory is in Miami and theres only about 12 hand rollers that make every tatuaje, and you can tell they have experience. Ive smoked every blend in this line just about. The brown wrapper 6.5 x 50 (aproximate) has everything i like about the don p. cuban classic but it never gets bad. It is truly awesome.

The brown wrapper series rates higher in my book than the havana VI series (red banding) but they are both top cigars in the craft. Good luck finding them tho, the websites that carry  them are rarely in stock and the shelves of the best tobacco stores are unable to keep a full selection either. They are hella expensive also, but ahh so worth it.


/end rant


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: rodfarva]
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hands down, the best cigar i have ever had

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I'd never smoke a cigarette, but I wouldn't be opposed to a nice quality cigar, I just don't know where to find them.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: pfxtc]
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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: I AM SWIM]
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http://www.gurkhacigars.com/royalReserve-cigars.cfm

these are almost 20 bucks a pop and worth every penny

Gurkhas FTW

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said:
Quote:
-Flor de Oliva/ Flor de Oliva Gold:  These are excellent bundle cigars (cheaper cigars packaged in cellophane bundles.)  The Golds are a bit milder.  I would recommend starting with these.


When i order (as opposed to wasting $ at the stores with their %50 markup) im almost exclusively a CI guy. Cigars international is the best in the business. I've been featured on their site (not to get to specific and reveal my identity.) The one and only problem i have with them really is that they DO NOT carry the flor de Oliva Gold. They have the full strength for sale, but they smell like wet horses in a pile of old boots. Im lucky enough to have a JR outlet nearby that stocks them for near internet pricing. I wouldnt pay more than $60 for the bundle, 40-50 is about right.

The flor de oliva gold is exceptional, but telling a beginner to buy a bundle, of which he will prolly take a month to finish would first require me recommending not using my favorite site (Cigars international,) then i would have to tell him they probably wont stay in good shape (humid) unless he shells out some dough for a humidor and hu. device and hygrometer (ok...he might already have a hygrometer, lol.) Thats why i didn't include this gem earlier, but believe me, it is the first cigar i would bust out if he was in my place right now for a smoke.


Quote:
-Padron: If you want something with a little more flavor and body try these.  Almost all Padrons are excellent cigars.  Try the milder cigars first though to get a feel for your tastes.

-Other brands:  I would recommend trying cigars from Fuente, Oliva, Don Pepin Garcia, Litto Gomez, Tatuaje, La Flor Dominicana and Illusione.  Many of these are very full flavored and full bodied however, so I suggest trying some of the milder cigars first to avoid being overwhelmed.


Im solidly impressed with your taste in a lot of ways. Now let me criticize it.
First off, padron cigars, are like olives either you like them or you dont. I've tried a handful and none of them did it for my pallet, however i couldn't outright say they were bad cigars. Padron smokers are there own kind IME, i dont share similar preference with them normally. It's weird, i know.

Recommending anything from OLIVA is dangerous, they have some HUGE bombs on the market right now. I dont know why people like them *ack* like i mentioned earlier the flor de oliva is wretched. NUB cigars are made by oliva and i really dont enjoy them. Its an odd experience and more attention was paid to the marketing and design than the flavor profile. I aged one for 6 months to see if it got better- it tasted worse than the first one.

In oliva's signature line there are some good smokes, but the flavor profiles vary wildly between sizes. They cost alot more than the flor de oliva gold, yet taste pretty much the same  (serie V that is.) I did not like the g or v maduros i got in a sampler. only tried one size, then smoked another different V and enjoyed it. Too much guessing.

Don peppin is awesome, i currently have a box of his Cuban classics. I really dont like them after the half way point tho, the flavor changes and becomes musty for lack of a better term. They are so strong after a long stay in my humidor that i never wanted to finish one anyway. They are BOLD.

You may not have known that Don Peppin Garcia blended the Tatuaje brand! (tatoo in spanish-wierd name ehh?)
He's a genius. Tatuaje is probably the best premium boutique cigar out today. The factory is in Miami and theres only about 12 hand rollers that make every tatuaje, and you can tell they have experience. Ive smoked every blend in this line just about. The brown wrapper 6.5 x 50 (aproximate) has everything i like about the don p. cuban classic but it never gets bad. It is truly awesome.

The brown wrapper series rates higher in my book than the havana VI series (red banding) but they are both top cigars in the craft. Good luck finding them tho, the websites that carry  them are rarely in stock and the shelves of the best tobacco stores are unable to keep a full selection either. They are hella expensive also, but ahh so worth it.


/end rant



Good point about the Olivas.  I also did not enjoy the Nub line.  To be more specific I would strongly recommend the Oliva V and any of the Oliva Master Blends.  As far as the bundles go, Famous Smoke often sells singles and 5 packs of bundle cigars.  Also, glass or acrylic humidors can be had for very little money.  Throw in a Humidipak and they are a perfectly good way to store cigars.

I also thoroughly enjoy the Pepin Cuban Classics.  I got a really good deal on 20 of the robustos several months ago.  The Tatuaje's are great too.  You said you have gotten your hands on a variety of them, have you tried the Black?  There were singles of these at a cigar shop near me but I just couldn't bring myself to spend $18 on one.

I think you are right about the Padrons.  People either like them or they don't.  Personally, I have never had a Padron that I didn't like.  I was a little disappointed in the anniversary line though, due to the high price.  I think the thousand series are a better deal.  If I am going to spend that much on a cigar its either going to be cuban or its going to be an Opus X (my favorite non cuban.)

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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ya know cigars are not meant to be inhaled. i personally think they tast okay, but thats it, cigs kick the shit outta cigars any day of the week. :smoker:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: tracedwards313]
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tracedwards313 said:
ya know cigars are not meant to be inhaled. i personally think they tast okay, but thats it, cigs kick the shit outta cigars any day of the week. :smoker:


It is a preference thing at the beginning, but now that im only on cigars i have no desire for cig smoke in my lungs. When i was smoking cig's i still liked cigars- thats the difference.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: tracedwards313]
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tracedwards313 said:
ya know cigars are not meant to be inhaled. i personally think they tast okay, but thats it, cigs kick the shit outta cigars any day of the week. :smoker:


hmm...that's strange...the cigar i was puffin on today, I was able to inhale big huge drags, very smoothly, and pleasantly exhale big clouds of smoke...it was a far better experience than smoking a cigarette...when I smoked a cigarette later, various types, you can hardly pull in much smoke, and when you do, it burns your throat...im sure there are some extremely harsh cigars out there, but this definitely pwned cigarettes


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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One thing i like to remember that the key to really enjoying the complexity of a cigar is the one puff a minute rule. Smoking it to fast toasts the tobaccos in front of the cherry before they burn causing a pretty standard burnt taste.

Another good point is how long you should smoke a cigar. When you are done enjoying it, put it down. It might be 20 min of 2 hours depending on many things. That is the nature of the enjoyment. 


Im dying to quantifiabley prove this, so dont repeat it as fact, but i heard that the "special" feeling you get from some cuban cigars (think montecristo #2; the Earths most popular cigar) is from a high lithium content in the soil.
The same lithium that is administered as an antipsychotic in hospitals. I always knew there was something a little xtra in my cubans. It sure makes alot of sense.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just thought i would throw that in here.

Edited by rodfarva (08/26/09 06:05 PM)

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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cigars are excellent one in a while, but i dislike how strong of a smell they leave on you afterwards :shrug:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said:
I wouldn't be opposed to a nice quality cigar, I just don't know where to find them.



a lot of liquor stores have a humidor now, any tobacco shop will have a great selection and usually someone knowledgeable about cigars, enough so to help you find something enjoyable for beginning smokers

that being said...

Fuente & Fuente Opus




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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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http://www.cigardave.com/theatre1a.html

^^^
If any of you cigar fans want to listen to some right-wind-cigar-hilarity clicky.
I've been a fan of this show for years :smile:
I will admit it is a guilty pleasure- it can be pretty far out there to the right; yet dave seems to have a ron paul esque approach to the "pleasure police," and he sounds Damn liberal about %4-%8 of the time.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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well today I accidentally got a swisher sweet instead of a phillie...it fucking sucked. Harsh as hell. I will try a phillie again and see how that goes


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Prisoner#1]
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blunts pwn cigarettes and cigars.


no contest.


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