rodfarva said:

hell, yeah cigars.

Try some premium handmades. They cost, and take some getting used to (like fine wine,) but once you develop a pallet you will never want to smoke a cigarette again.

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Knifey Mcstab said:

I like puffing on one once in awhile.

My cousin got addicted because he inhaled them...

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UnholyChild666 said:

Knifey Mcstab said:

I like puffing on one once in awhile.

My cousin got addicted because he inhaled them...

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I inhale them don't smoke them enough to get addicted though.

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UnholyChild666 said:

hell yeah thanks

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Yw, oh, and try not to inhale


Theres a difference with cigars (vs cig's) in that when i smoked cig's 10 years or so, i basically only smoked Winston reds (hard pack only,lol.) With Cigars, i like to try new ones all the time and usually if i smoke two in a night i smoke two different.

benton said:

Phillies are absolutely horrendous once you smoke real cigars. If you thought that thing tasted good wait until you have a real nice handmade dominican cigar.

If your into flavors go with the ACID or CAO Flavors route. However most true cigar smokers frown upon flavored cigars(I'm not one of them)

For a really good, really cheap smoke I would go with the Aruto Fuente Curlyhead. If you like strong cigars choose the maduro wrapper, and choose natural for a more mild smoke.

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There are a couple things here i will comment on. The flavored cigars like Lars Titans (basically same as ACID) were a great transition cigar for me. I smoked swishers occasionally and these novelty cigars were a great starting point for my novice entry in to the heavenly word of fine tobacco. I mentioned earlier ACID's being 100% fermented tobaccos- i said this because phillies, swishers etc. are about 20-40% tobacco and the rest is paper. There is also a ton of shit they add to flavor them, which is horrible for you.

Sure some elite cigar guys will still bad mouth ACID's (your right,) but the truth is they are an UNDENIABLE phenomenon that has so much popularity now that they make up their own market. There will be more flavored cigar brands in the future, and still be a huge amount of people who smoke them. They dont have shit on some $25 USD hand rolled Cubans IMO , but for 4 or 5 $ they are nice and enjoyable.

You made a common mistake in your post tho: All Maduro's are not strong. This is an important piece of information, because there are tons of mild maduro smokes. A "single" maduro cigar has only one maduro leaf wrapping it and often has light fillers and binders underneath. It can be said that maduro's are GENERALLY stronger and more favorable.

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Now here is where things get a little confusing: The term "Maduro" can be used to describe solely the color of a wrapper, or it can be used to actually refer to the process of creating a Maduro wrapper leaf. In short, a cigar can be Maduro in color, but not actually a Maduro wrapper and vice versa, while a wrapper can be fermented using the methods that create natural Maduro wrappers, but the resulting color may be on the lighter end of the Maduro color spectrum.

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Source.
Click the link if you want to dedicate about 10 minutes to your knowledge of the cigar tobacco.
It's a good read.

Fuente's are a great brand in terms of their production and quality control (ie. not alot of flaws, viens in the wrapper etc.) I never tried the one you mentioned, but i will have to pick one up now

Maybe you could write me a review for it?



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I want to brag now;
The MR. Rockey Patel, the best domestic cigar manufacturer and hardest working man in the biz, recently invited me to his plantation/mansion in Honduras! When the political climate calms down a bit i will be spending a weekend getting wined and dined there

The bad part is a couple months ago there was a military cupe de etat that overthrew their democratically elected president. The US gov. has threatened retaliation, making Honduras a bad vacation spot right now. It will all blow over soon tho, and fuck it, i didn't have a problem in Cuba

Heres a great site to order cubans to the US http://www.topcubans.com/
Don't get confused tho- many cuban manufacturers have the same names as cigars you can buy in the US legally (such as cohiba and montecristo) however the legal ones ARE NOT MADE IN CUBA.

rodfarva said:

They dont have shit on some $25 USD hand rolled Cubans IMO

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Fuente's are a great brand in terms of their production and quality control

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Prisoner#1 said:

rodfarva said:

They dont have shit on some $25 USD hand rolled Cubans IMO

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Fuente's are a great brand in terms of their production and quality control

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Arturo Fuente, Punch, Romeo y Jullietta, Bolivar, all make good cigars and
some can also be had for just a few bucks each, all hand rolled from cuba
it's as simple as ordering from canada

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the bizzle said:

so what's the best for rolling a premium blunt? and why does even a phillie give a nice blunt-like feel (as far as not using marijuana goes)?  I'm just trying to understand thangs...i though somebody said phillies didn't actually use a tobacco leaf, just paper.

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For a blunt? I think you mean like rolling weed in.. Its better to roll blunts with the paper mixed tobaccos like zigzag blunts, phillies, etc. They come flavored to go well with chronic and pure fermented tobacco leaves are way to harsh to smoke then hold in your lungs with some pot smoke. You will cough that shit out instantly unless your way hardcore. I rolled a blunt for a Willy Nelson concert a few months ago with a page from my LSAT study book, i have 100 cigars on hand, and no real blunt wraps. I figured straight paper would be better.

Smoking weed with willy was a life goal

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-Flor de Oliva/ Flor de Oliva Gold:  These are excellent bundle cigars (cheaper cigars packaged in cellophane bundles.)  The Golds are a bit milder.  I would recommend starting with these.

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-Padron: If you want something with a little more flavor and body try these.  Almost all Padrons are excellent cigars.  Try the milder cigars first though to get a feel for your tastes.

-Other brands:  I would recommend trying cigars from Fuente, Oliva, Don Pepin Garcia, Litto Gomez, Tatuaje, La Flor Dominicana and Illusione.  Many of these are very full flavored and full bodied however, so I suggest trying some of the milder cigars first to avoid being overwhelmed.

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rodfarva said:

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-Flor de Oliva/ Flor de Oliva Gold:  These are excellent bundle cigars (cheaper cigars packaged in cellophane bundles.)  The Golds are a bit milder.  I would recommend starting with these.

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When i order (as opposed to wasting $ at the stores with their %50 markup) im almost exclusively a CI guy. Cigars international is the best in the business. I've been featured on their site (not to get to specific and reveal my identity.) The one and only problem i have with them really is that they DO NOT carry the flor de Oliva Gold. They have the full strength for sale, but they smell like wet horses in a pile of old boots. Im lucky enough to have a JR outlet nearby that stocks them for near internet pricing. I wouldnt pay more than $60 for the bundle, 40-50 is about right.

The flor de oliva gold is exceptional, but telling a beginner to buy a bundle, of which he will prolly take a month to finish would first require me recommending not using my favorite site (Cigars international,) then i would have to tell him they probably wont stay in good shape (humid) unless he shells out some dough for a humidor and hu. device and hygrometer (ok...he might already have a hygrometer, lol.) Thats why i didn't include this gem earlier, but believe me, it is the first cigar i would bust out if he was in my place right now for a smoke.

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-Padron: If you want something with a little more flavor and body try these.  Almost all Padrons are excellent cigars.  Try the milder cigars first though to get a feel for your tastes.

-Other brands:  I would recommend trying cigars from Fuente, Oliva, Don Pepin Garcia, Litto Gomez, Tatuaje, La Flor Dominicana and Illusione.  Many of these are very full flavored and full bodied however, so I suggest trying some of the milder cigars first to avoid being overwhelmed.

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Im solidly impressed with your taste in a lot of ways. Now let me criticize it.
First off, padron cigars, are like olives either you like them or you dont. I've tried a handful and none of them did it for my pallet, however i couldn't outright say they were bad cigars. Padron smokers are there own kind IME, i dont share similar preference with them normally. It's weird, i know.

Recommending anything from OLIVA is dangerous, they have some HUGE bombs on the market right now. I dont know why people like them *ack* like i mentioned earlier the flor de oliva is wretched. NUB cigars are made by oliva and i really dont enjoy them. Its an odd experience and more attention was paid to the marketing and design than the flavor profile. I aged one for 6 months to see if it got better- it tasted worse than the first one.

In oliva's signature line there are some good smokes, but the flavor profiles vary wildly between sizes. They cost alot more than the flor de oliva gold, yet taste pretty much the same  (serie V that is.) I did not like the g or v maduros i got in a sampler. only tried one size, then smoked another different V and enjoyed it. Too much guessing.

Don peppin is awesome, i currently have a box of his Cuban classics. I really dont like them after the half way point tho, the flavor changes and becomes musty for lack of a better term. They are so strong after a long stay in my humidor that i never wanted to finish one anyway. They are BOLD.

You may not have known that Don Peppin Garcia blended the Tatuaje brand! (tatoo in spanish-wierd name ehh?)
He's a genius. Tatuaje is probably the best premium boutique cigar out today. The factory is in Miami and theres only about 12 hand rollers that make every tatuaje, and you can tell they have experience. Ive smoked every blend in this line just about. The brown wrapper 6.5 x 50 (aproximate) has everything i like about the don p. cuban classic but it never gets bad. It is truly awesome.

The brown wrapper series rates higher in my book than the havana VI series (red banding) but they are both top cigars in the craft. Good luck finding them tho, the websites that carry  them are rarely in stock and the shelves of the best tobacco stores are unable to keep a full selection either. They are hella expensive also, but ahh so worth it.


/end rant

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tracedwards313 said:

ya know cigars are not meant to be inhaled. i personally think they tast okay, but thats it, cigs kick the shit outta cigars any day of the week.

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tracedwards313 said:

ya know cigars are not meant to be inhaled. i personally think they tast okay, but thats it, cigs kick the shit outta cigars any day of the week.

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pfxtc said:

I wouldn't be opposed to a nice quality cigar, I just don't know where to find them.

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a lot of liquor stores have a humidor now, any tobacco shop will have a great selection and usually someone knowledgeable about cigars, enough so to help you find something enjoyable for beginning smokers

that being said...

Fuente & Fuente Opus

the bizzle said:

Thank you, Captain Obvious

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