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cigars pwn cigarettes it seems
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I smoked a cigar this morning...now I kinda see why I love blunts so much. in fact, I almost kinda feel somewhat like I smoked one. It was just a mango phillie too...so I still don't understand the mechanics, like if it's something in the wrappage or not (somebody help me out here?). not only is the buzz nicer, but I smoked a whole cigar and feel much less drained of energy than a cigarette would make me feel.

My neighbor quit smoking cigars either because he was starting to get throat cancer or didnt want to get it, so like cigarettes, i don't plan to go crazy with it cuz it's not the healthiest, but still...that was surprisingly nice. sigh, I wish I had some :happyweed:


Add a whole thermos of coffee to the mix, and FUCK YEA, I'm ready to have a heart attack! Somebody fry me up a steak!


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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Couldn't agree more bizzle

:nicekitty:

i'm smoking a cig now though, wish I had some cigars (blunts).

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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I can smoke a cigar like a philly or a dutch, but honestly they are too harsh for me.

I dont even like smoking blunts too much, but ill some a joint all day, every day.

Try a black & mild with a wood tip, i love em.

But recently i have been getting rolling tobacco, and twisting my own cigs, they taste WAY better and they are cheaper.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
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yayy another one converted to rolling.

:nicekitty:

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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I like to smoke cigars every once in a great while....................... but only the flavored ones :sad:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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yeah this mango phillie (my fav flavor for blunts as well so far)...was surprisingly non-harsh, way less harsh than cigs or rolled cigs...i thought i was gonna have a sore throat and be coughin it up but to my surprise, it was very smooth...i was able to take some really nice satisfying drags. Also I didn't have to smoke much at all to get that blunt like feel, but I was enjoying it so much I just smoked the whole thing.

For me, usually by the end of a cigarette, I am very not satisfied, still want another one, and when i do smoke another one, feel like total shit for doing so. I only was able to get 2 of these cigars for the whole day, so hopefully I'll save it for around lunch time, but i could ration it out if I had to. I feel pretty content for now, and it's been about an hour. Sigh, i guess i've become a smoker again, for now...too many thangs on my plate and no :happyweed: for a long time.

Anyways, somebody had said that phillie wrappers are just paper, I think...but why do they give such a pleasant feeling? I'm so nostalgic for a blunt :sad:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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I like Philly Black Max they don't even smell like tobacco when they burn at all.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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hell, yeah cigars.

Try some premium handmades. They cost, and take some getting used to (like fine wine,) but once you develop a pallet you will never want to smoke a cigarette again.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said:
hell, yeah cigars.

Try some premium handmades. They cost, and take some getting used to (like fine wine,) but once you develop a pallet you will never want to smoke a cigarette again.


can you recommend some specific ones?


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: the bizzle]
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I like puffing on one once in awhile.

My cousin got addicted because he inhaled them...

:facepalm:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Knifey Mcstab said:
I like puffing on one once in awhile.

My cousin got addicted because he inhaled them...

:facepalm:


I inhale them don't smoke them enough to get addicted though.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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*small edit
Hell yeah, i have a PHD.
You sound like your new to the habit so i will recommend some cheaper milder (flavor and impact) premium hand rolled cigars. Generally you work your way up to the really bold peppery cigars, or even the mild tasting cubans that will make you light headed and want to throw up.

My first cigars i really enjoyed were the lars tetans. They dont make them any more, however the same people took their concept and ran with it like the NE patriots. They created the Drew estate brands such as ACID cigars and Natural LTD. Here are links to the brands i recommend. you can order them in 5-packs usually for cheap. If you go to the store you will spend 8-12 $ for one when you can order 5 for $25ish usually.

here are the ACID's i recommend
Kuba Kuba, Def sea, or liquid.
ACID's are very unique cigars in that they are flavored, however what you need to know is that they are made from %100 fermented tobaccos. The flavors come from them being aged in special rooms that also have special herbs, and essential oils in them. The flavor gets absorbed by the cigars through the air, unlike say, cognac diped cigars.

Along those same likes is a cigar i still smoke today (same manufacturer) called the NATURAL LTD
I smoke the "pimp sitcks"
They are a figurado shape (like a huge blunt, narrow at both ends,) and leave a mild vanilla taste on your lips.
Its a very mature flavor- not sweet really.

Cigars have different sizes, hence the names within a specific brand. For most cigar lines different size cigars with the same name have way different body and flavor profiles. If you hear someone saying they only like smoking big cigars because they are bolder or whatever they are full of shit. I have some tiny romeo y julieta cubanos that go off in you mouth like a stick of dynamite. They make my experienced ass light headed.

Understanding sizes:
A small cigar is 4 inches long and has a ring gage (circumference) of about 48. This is represented as "4 x 48"
A huge cigar would be 7 inches with a 60 ring gage or "7x60"
I prefer curchill or toro sizes (sometime called double corona, or a name the manufacturer made up.)
These are usually 6 inches and around a 54 ring ("6x54") You pay a bit more for a larger amount of tobacco per cigar.


Here are some traditional cigars they you will love for a few $ per stick:
Indian Tabak reserve.
These are cigars i love, personally. This is the least ammount of money you can spend on a cigar
of this quality!

these
Perdomo Habano
cigars are for you if you feel like jumping into something bolder and more full flavored.
For the price they are super good. Lots of smoke, and they are well constructed always.
Go for the 5x54 Connecticut. I smoke these everyday almost and any variety is good in this line.
My friends are impressed by the attractive wrapper, and when i hand these out people think i
gave them a 15 $ cigar. I pay less than $7 a piece.


If you dont care what they cost and want a good first smoke that will get you attention at the cigar lounge or country club try these high priced milds:

AVO <- (this guy played piano for sinatra!)
Ashton

or the super high priced ($25, which is $12 to much for what you get according to my taste)
Zino platinum Scepters
(jay-z smokes these.)

Thats a good start for you, anyone really.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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UnholyChild666 said:
Knifey Mcstab said:
I like puffing on one once in awhile.

My cousin got addicted because he inhaled them...

:facepalm:


I inhale them don't smoke them enough to get addicted though.


Ya, that's not the only reason.

He's also stupid.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: rodfarva]
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hell yeah thanks :thumbup:


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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Both are teh gross. No need to waste and ruin marijuana.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: Rocker232]
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Were not talking about marijuana


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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UnholyChild666 said:
hell yeah thanks :thumbup:


Yw, oh, and try not to inhale :wink:


Theres a difference with cigars (vs cig's) in that when i smoked cig's 10 years or so, i basically only smoked Winston reds (hard pack only,lol.) With Cigars, i like to try new ones all the time and usually if i smoke two in a night i smoke two different.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: UnholyChild666]
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Phillies are absolutely horrendous once you smoke real cigars. If you thought that thing tasted good wait until you have a real nice handmade dominican cigar.

If your into flavors go with the ACID or CAO Flavors route. However most true cigar smokers frown upon flavored cigars(I'm not one of them)

For a really good, really cheap smoke I would go with the Aruto Fuente Curlyhead. If you like strong cigars choose the maduro wrapper, and choose natural for a more mild smoke.

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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: benton]
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benton said:
Phillies are absolutely horrendous once you smoke real cigars. If you thought that thing tasted good wait until you have a real nice handmade dominican cigar.

If your into flavors go with the ACID or CAO Flavors route. However most true cigar smokers frown upon flavored cigars(I'm not one of them)

For a really good, really cheap smoke I would go with the Aruto Fuente Curlyhead. If you like strong cigars choose the maduro wrapper, and choose natural for a more mild smoke.



There are a couple things here i will comment on. The flavored cigars like Lars Titans (basically same as ACID) were a great transition cigar for me. I smoked swishers occasionally and these novelty cigars were a great starting point for my novice entry in to the heavenly word of fine tobacco. I mentioned earlier ACID's being 100% fermented tobaccos- i said this because phillies, swishers etc. are about 20-40% tobacco and the rest is paper. There is also a ton of shit they add to flavor them, which is horrible for you.

Sure some elite cigar guys will still bad mouth ACID's (your right,) but the truth is they are an UNDENIABLE phenomenon that has so much popularity now that they make up their own market. There will be more flavored cigar brands in the future, and still be a huge amount of people who smoke them. They dont have shit on some $25 USD hand rolled Cubans IMO , but for 4 or 5 $ they are nice and enjoyable.

You made a common mistake in your post tho: All Maduro's are not strong. This is an important piece of information, because there are tons of mild maduro smokes. A "single" maduro cigar has only one maduro leaf wrapping it and often has light fillers and binders underneath. It can be said that maduro's are GENERALLY stronger and more favorable.


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Now here is where things get a little confusing: The term "Maduro" can be used to describe solely the color of a wrapper, or it can be used to actually refer to the process of creating a Maduro wrapper leaf. In short, a cigar can be Maduro in color, but not actually a Maduro wrapper and vice versa, while a wrapper can be fermented using the methods that create natural Maduro wrappers, but the resulting color may be on the lighter end of the Maduro color spectrum.


Source.
Click the link if you want to dedicate about 10 minutes to your knowledge of the cigar tobacco.
It's a good read.

Fuente's are a great brand in terms of their production and quality control (ie. not alot of flaws, viens in the wrapper etc.) I never tried the one you mentioned, but i will have to pick one up now:thumbup:

Maybe you could write me a review for it?



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I want to brag now;
The MR. Rockey Patel, the best domestic cigar manufacturer and hardest working man in the biz, recently invited me to his plantation/mansion in Honduras! When the political climate calms down a bit i will be spending a weekend getting wined and dined there :awesham:

The bad part is a couple months ago there was a military cupe de etat that overthrew their democratically elected president. The US gov. has threatened retaliation, making Honduras a bad vacation spot right now. It will all blow over soon tho, and fuck it, i didn't have a problem in Cuba :gethigh:

Heres a great site to order cubans to the US http://www.topcubans.com/
Don't get confused tho- many cuban manufacturers have the same names as cigars you can buy in the US legally (such as cohiba and montecristo) however the legal ones ARE NOT MADE IN CUBA.


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Re: cigars pwn cigarettes it seems [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said:
They dont have shit on some $25 USD hand rolled Cubans IMO


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Fuente's are a great brand in terms of their production and quality control



Arturo Fuente, Punch, Romeo y Jullietta, Bolivar, all make good cigars and
some can also be had for just a few bucks each, all hand rolled from cuba
it's as simple as ordering from canada


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