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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Taco Chef]
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I see, so one little link is impossible to find even though it's been posted a million times


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
I see, so one little link is impossible to find even though it's been posted a million times


Pris, you can find it yourself.  That's not what the thread is about.

Thread premise #1: birthers are batshit crazy.


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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As I recall, the interview with his relative was conducted through a translator, and her statement was immediately corrected after the interviewer continued to ask if they could visit Obama's physical birthplace in Kenya. Sorry, but this:

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MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

    OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

    MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

    OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

    MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

    OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

    MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

    OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.


is not "grandmother confirms Kenya is the birthplace of Obama". It's a translator misunderstanding, which is not evident if you cut off everything after the first reply, which is what birther youtubes commonly do.

Still looking for Obama directly claiming he was born at another hospital, though.


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: THC Titan]
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THC Titan said:
Why are you so persistent in your lies? Illiterate, chronically stupid?




what lies? am I lying that obama hasnt produced a long form BC or that McCain has produced one, am I lying that Obama was regestered in an indonesian school and had to be a citizen of indonesia in order to attend? these are questions, it's a big difference between it an a lie

BTW, keep your flaming in check

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Where did Obama ever directly make the claim he was born anywhere other than Kapi'olani hospital?



first, which obama, second, where did I say it was obama that made the
claim he was born in a different hospital?

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaQueensHospital.jpg
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaBornQueensMedical.jpg
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaHospitalLetter.jpg


http://tribes.tribe.net/politicaljunkies/thread/74306144-7183-431f-91e4-e40edc7ae529
http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/barack_obama.htm


does obama even know where he was born?

http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135



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What is the full transcript of his grandmother's alleged statement that he was absolutely born in Kenya?



there's enough to bring reasonable doubt

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074





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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: DieCommie]
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So the DailyKos is running polls now?
:rofl2:

http://research2000.us/about/

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Put me in the "don't know/don't care" column.


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: zappaisgod]
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PS: Research 2000 is a major polling operation.  The results in this poll are not too dissimilar from other such polls that you are free to post.  Rather than skip straight to Fox though, why don't you give us a wider spread?


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Ferris]
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I would still like to know how everyday Republicans believing this makes it hard to get the country up and running.

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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Redstorm]
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it doesnt, some folks need excuses though so they can try to justify the failure


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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FYI Republican senators have been spreading this misinformation, such as the Death Panels. So as long as the ignorant masses are compliant and further the misinformation, the Senators with their dicks in big pharm will continue to profit from it.

I'm talking about Obama getting Health care reform passed, which is his first step in getting the country "up and running".

Edited by c0sm0nautt (08/22/09 10:50 AM)

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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I thought the Porkulus was supposed to be the first step in getting the country "up and running".  How's that working out?

And if there isn't a problem with the "Death Panels" how come they dropped those provisions?


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Because the masses are stupid and gullible?

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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Redstorm]
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That explains Obama.  It doesn't explain the capitulation over something that they said didn't exist.  Who's zooming who, here?


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: zappaisgod]
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You've been around long enough to know that perception, not reality, is what matters in politics.  If you can talk enough mouth-breathers into believing something is true, the damage has been done.

Not that the Dems aren't castrated little slugs, though.  The end of life counseling was right and should have been put into law. The backed down and should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
FYI Republican senators have been spreading this misinformation, such as the Death Panels. So as long as the ignorant masses are compliant and further the misinformation, the Senators with their dicks in big pharm will continue to profit from it.


according to the polls the liberals tend to be the more ignorant of the
masses, I personally agree with the concept of these 'death panels',
there needs to be a point when someone says 'we will no longer treat you
because you will not follow our recommendations, you continue to drink
and smoke to excess and now you want a liver transplant', that's simply
buying someone a few months of life while racking up huge medical bills


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
  The end of life counseling was right and should have been put into law.



hopefully it can be brought back in the form of lethal injection


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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OhGod, I was hoping that Pris would link to the third-party translated, leading question infused, hopelessly garbled, alleged telephone conversation with Barack Obamas grandmother in Kenya, because THAT is more reliable than a birth certificate verified by numerous government agencies as being valid, contemporary newspaper announcements citing his birth, and photographs of Obama's mother at full term in Hawaii. 



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Redstorm said:
What Republican and southern voters believe about whether Obama was born in the US has no bearing on how hard or easy it should be to get things "up and running".

I would like to see your support for such an assertion.


This thread.  The fact that this topic still gets as much attention as it does undoubtedly detracts from the time we could be spending having conversations about issues such as health-care. 



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Pris said:
according to the polls the liberals tend to be the more ignorant of the
masses, I personally agree with the concept of these 'death panels',
there needs to be a point when someone says 'we will no longer treat you
because you will not follow our recommendations, you continue to drink
and smoke to excess and now you want a liver transplant', that's simply
buying someone a few months of life while racking up huge medical bills


Your profound misunderstanding of organ transplant waiting list criteria puts you squarely in the ignorant column.  On which side of the proverbial aisle do you reside again?  While you may personally agree with the concepts of the panels, the VAST majority of people sharing your core beliefs are too ignorant to understand that the insurance that they probably already have requires just such meetings.  So explain to me again how it is that the left is the weak party when all they have done is to remove a small procedural requirement in an attempt to quell the onslaught of blithering morons foaming at the mouth over something they could never hope to understand as long as they remain in their self-propagated echo-chamber of ignorance.



Don't worry.. I'll leave again soon :cool:


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: thedefone]
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You mean there's no health care debate going on? You must have missed the thread concerning health care that has almost ten times as many posts as this one.

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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: thedefone]
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thedefone said:
OhGod, I was hoping that Pris would link to the third-party translated, leading question infused, hopelessly garbled, alleged telephone conversation with Barack Obamas grandmother in Kenya


in addition to an official from kenya, 2 people saying he was born in
kenya that live in kenya, one of whom claimed to have been present at
his birth in kenya

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because THAT is more reliable than a birth certificate verified by numerous government agencies as being valid,


there's no doubt that the certificate shown was in fact issued by the
state of hawaii, what is called into question is why hasnt he produced
the long form since it's been revealed that that certificate can be
issued to foreign born children within 90 days of their birth upon the
parents returning to hawaii

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contemporary newspaper announcements citing his birth,


oh yes... news papers prove it all

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and photographs of Obama's mother at full term in Hawaii.

 

where's the pics of her giving birth in the presence of asian, white or
hawaiian doctors and nurses, she obviously isnt camera shy





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Redstorm said:
What Republican and southern voters believe about whether Obama was born in the US has no bearing on how hard or easy it should be to get things "up and running".

I would like to see your support for such an assertion.


This thread.  The fact that this topic still gets as much attention as it does undoubtedly detracts from the time we could be spending having conversations about issues such as health-care. 


lol... so this thread is preventing obama from just showing the long
form birth certificate to shut the 'birthers' up, a handful of people
talking about this shit prevents business from being conducted in
washington... any excuse must be a good one


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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Don't say I didn't warn yuo.



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