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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
YAY! Markos :cheer:



What is that then?

I take nothing as a point of pride.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #8]
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I was just fucking around. I don't like markos, but you acted foolishly too.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Yeah, I guess I let my emotions get the best of me, but at the time I thought I was doing what I had to do to get him to focus on an argument instead of rambling off nonsense.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Anonymous #8 said:
Orgone and Icelander are a couple of the very few people left that will actually participate in a dialectical discussion (or rational debate, if you will) in P&S without leaving the conversation like a baby once their opinions get made fun of.  I think if anyone spends as much time reading the inane banter some of the more "enlightened" posters in P&S post they will eventually become equally as flip ad OC and Icelander. 


Its pretty hard to try to discuss rationally with someone how their psychological opinion is not actually a metaphysical truth, especially when instead of reading your posts for what they say they are trying to "figure you out"



Orgone, icelander and mushroomtrip only get away with what they do because there is no one to properly moderate and judge the debate. If they entered their arguments into a proper academic setting they would be laughed at and probably kicked out for continually resorting to personal attacks and refusing to stick to the rules of debate.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Orgone and icelander can and do argue when someone is taking the argument seriously.  MT posts intelligently rarely, but isn't willing to rationally discuss her beliefs any more than Markos is in my experience.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Yeah, I guess I let my emotions get the best of me

Aye, so you can see why I criticize the way you argued. It's cool. You are "un-douched". (Happens all the time)

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #8]
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If they personally disagree with someones opinion they can't resist personally insulting them. MT does the same, but she can be quite clever at rhetoric so i give her some respect for that. If she could refrain from personal attacks i think she would be an interesting read.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #10]
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I used to find Orgone and Icelander irritating, but over time I've come to respect where they're coming from and now have less issues with their style.

MushroomTrip is another story though. She seems to like to berate and belittle more than she likes to discuss. I don't think it's possible for her to discuss something she doesn't agree with without mocking the poster she's having a disagreement with, and if for some reason she wasn't able to use emoticons, I expect she'd stop posting altogether.

I tend to avoid her.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #11]
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Anonymous #11 said:
MushroomTrip is another story though. She seems to like to berate and belittle more than she likes to discuss. I don't think it's possible for her to discuss something she doesn't agree with without mocking the poster she's having a disagreement with, and if for some reason she wasn't able to use emoticons, I expect she'd stop posting altogether.




All three of them are like that. Icelander and orgone are just a little less intelligent and also slightly less derogatory.

Edited by Anonymous (08/16/09 08:07 PM)

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #11]
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Orgone is simply a troll and should be removed again, just like his old account Swami.  His disillusionment and bitterness impairs his ability to interact with people on these topics.

Icelander uses the forums to entertain himself, which I forgive, because he mainly plays fair, besides when he tries to pick a fight with Markos.

Mushroom Trip is cool and has great intentions, but sometimes would rather win an argument than concede a point.  And she usually does this with silly games based around semantics.

MarkostheGnostic is awesome.  He's done insane amounts of research and retained ridiculous amounts of information.  He always backs up his point and is a true scholar in this regard.  I've never seen him argue a point or concede a point.  He puts out his opinion and that's it, and it's based on his own experience, which you can't really refute.  You can only say "I either have or haven't experienced it."  It either grooves or doesn't.  You either grok Markos or you don't.

Edited by Anonymous (08/16/09 09:06 PM)

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #12]
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Are you sure mushroomtrip has good intentions? Alot of the time she seems purely malicious. Sometimes i doubt her sanity :lol: I don't think her arguments are really logical but i still find the word games she plays to be impressive on one level.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Mushroomtrip is a black hearted bitch. She is like hitler if he ate babies.

The OC just neurotically bashes religion and other skeptic crap. It is really kind of pathetic that his stupid threads go to 10 pages.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #2]
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"You either grok Markos or you don't."

Groking is a totally illusory experience unless you count groking yourself, and even then that could be an illusion.

Edited by Anonymous (08/16/09 09:09 PM)

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Markos is full of useless knowledge.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #2]
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That's up to you to decide, #2.  The same type of knowledge has led me to become a better person.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #12]
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I don't know him but I feel like he can really apply all the stuff he says. I am sure he is correct and it is somewhat interesting.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Extreme Skepticism is one thing, but attempting to banish hope by shairng cynical views (OC and Icelander) in every thread is almost counter-productive for the philosophy forums because it turns every idea or epiphanie into an argument incessantly asking for burden of proof.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #12]
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I don't really have much of a problem with Icelander.  Like you said, he's mainly just here to amuse himself.  I actually don't see him debating all that much.  The only thing about him that get me is that sometimes his nihilism can get depressing.

MushroomTrip is the most arrogant, conceited bitch I've ever seen.

OC is someone I actually respected at one time, when I didn't know any better.  But as I've gotten more familiar with him, I've found him to be extremely childish and hypocritical.  I think he's got some serious psychological issues.

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Re: Yet another MarkostheGnostic contender [Re: Anonymous #1]
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People who have too many epiphanies without reality checks tend to be close to insanity. Speaking from self experience.

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