Nalim said:

Yep it is. Gogo teatime

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right on

first I'll let them dry though. and maybe try an extraction of some sorts

felixhigh said:

Nice score, hope they're strong.
BTW nice that you harvested the whole straw instead of just the pods.


FH

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Really? I thought that's what everyone did.

Nalim said:

Tea is an extraction. You wont get much cleaner than that unless you have a well equipped lab. Above all you don't need a better extract. Crush, boil, strain, drink. I usually repeat step 2 and 3 two times.

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Nice score, hope they're strong.
BTW nice that you harvested the whole straw instead of just the pods.

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I hope so too! I figured it would be weird (and ugly) to just cut off the heads without the stems

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Did you tell her you were making 'flower arrangements', or 'opium tea'?

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stefan said:

Nalim said:

Tea is an extraction. You wont get much cleaner than that unless you have a well equipped lab. Above all you don't need a better extract. Crush, boil, strain, drink. I usually repeat step 2 and 3 two times.

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sounds good, I'll try that. it'll have to wait a few weeks though, I have to work a lot this week and I'm going on vacation for two weeks after that.
I will still look into another ewxtraction method, because I want to mix some of that with hasj to smoke.

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stefan said:

hmm I might just stick with the tea method then

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Nalim said:

stefan said:

Nalim said:

Tea is an extraction. You wont get much cleaner than that unless you have a well equipped lab. Above all you don't need a better extract. Crush, boil, strain, drink. I usually repeat step 2 and 3 two times.

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sounds good, I'll try that. it'll have to wait a few weeks though, I have to work a lot this week and I'm going on vacation for two weeks after that.
I will still look into another ewxtraction method, because I want to mix some of that with hasj to smoke.

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You wont find one. It is possible to achieve but its fucking hard. Look up the Kabay process.
here:
http://www.poppies.org/2001/07/13/hungarian-extraction-of-alkaloids-from-poppy-straw/#more



I wrote this a few years back:

Nalim said:

found this:

  1.  An empty 55-gallon oil drum is placed on bricks about a foot above the ground and a fire is built under the drum. Thirty gallons of water are added to the drum and brought to a boil. Ten to fifteen kilograms of raw opium are added to the boiling water.

  2. With stirring, the raw opium eventually dissolves in the boiling water, while soil, leaves, twigs, and other non-soluble materials float in the solution. Most of these materials are scooped out of the clear brown 'liquid opium' solution.

  3. Slaked lime (calcium hydroxide), or more often a readily available chemical fertilizer with a high content of lime, is added to the solution. The lime converts the water insoluble morphine into the water soluble calcium morphenate. The other opium alkaloids do not react with the lime to form soluble calcium salts. Codeine is slightly water soluble and gets carried over with the calcium morphenate in the liquid. For the most part, the other alkaloids become part of the residual sediment 'sludge' that comes to rest on the bottom of the oil drum.

  4. As the solution cools, and after the insolubles precipitate out, the morphine solution is scooped from the drum and poured through a filter of some kind. Burlap rice sacks are often used as filters. They are later squeezed in a press to remove most of the solution from the wet sacks. The solution is then poured into large cooking pots and re-heated, but not boiled.

  5. Ammonium chloride is added to the heated calcium morphenate solution to adjust the alkalinity to a pH of 8 to 9, and the solution is then allowed to cool. Within one or two hours, the morphine base and the unextracted codeine base precipitate out of the solution and settle to the bottom of the cooking pot.

  6. The solution is then poured off through cloth filters. Any solid morphine base chunks in the solution will remain on the cloth. The morphine base is removed from both the cooking pot and from the filter cloths, wrapped and squeezed in cloth, and then dried in the sun. When dry, the crude morphine base is a coffee-colored powder.

  7. This 'crude' morphine base, commonly known by the Chinese term p'i-tzu throughout Southeast Asia, may be further purified by dissolving it in hydrochloric acid, adding activated charcoal, re-heating and re-filtering. The solution is filtered several more times, and the morphine (morphine hydrochloride) is then dried in the sun.



so even if this will cause alkaloid loss and not result in pure alkaloids it will probably yield a smokable alkaloid containing mass:

Water is heated.
Poppy tea is made.(you know: add poppies to warm water, let stand for a while, filter)
calcium hydroxide is added
Solution is allowed to cool
Water is poured of and junk on the bottom is discarded or re-extracted
Water is filtered
Solution is heated(not boiled)
Ammonium chloride is added to a pH of 8-9
The solution is allowed to cool
The solution is filtered and the precipitate that stays in the filter is saved.

The result should be pure enough for smoking.
What do you guys think?

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