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Edited by AnonymousRabbit (05/18/22 05:22 PM)

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: MrBump]
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Same as Mr Bump. I even breath a little better when I smoke weed a lot, but then I'll buy a pack of cigars and by the time I'm done with them I'm hacking shit up every night.


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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
Yup. Although it hasn't been studied




see there's the problem with vaporizers, the only studies that
have been done were pro marijuana groups that are more than
willing to tamper with the outcome in order to sell their partners
$300 smoking machine... I'm yet to see any proof that using a
vaporizer is any better than a pipe or bong

now people run around claiming that it's a safe way to smoke,
that only THC vaporizes and that's all you get and that it
leaves all the toxins behind


um... yeah, sure thing clyde

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
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TBH, I don't pay much attention to the large majority of previous cannabis studies, especially government ones.

It's well known that governments restrict funding and cannabis itself to any research that shows cannabis is positive.

At the same time, heavily fund, supply and publish any material that shows cannabis is negative.

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see there's the problem with vaporizers, the only studies that
have been done were pro marijuana groups that are more than
willing to tamper with the outcome in order to sell their partners
$300 smoking machine... I'm yet to see any proof that using a
vaporizer is any better than a pipe or bong



I'll give you one, I can run a vaporizer through a bong, vaporizer 50g+ and get high all day everyday for months on end.

At the end of it, the water is basically clear, with a slight yellow resin tinge.

1g of combusted smoke would dirty up the bong far greater.

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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People are quick to forget that bias works both ways.


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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chespirito]
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Chespirito said:
recent studies have been unable to demonstrate a direct link between lung cancer and frequent direct inhalation of marijuana smoke. While many researchers have failed to find a correlation,[28][29] some researchers still conclude that cannabis smoke poses a higher risk of lung cancer than tobacco.




lol... I love modern science

"well there's no proof but since the opinion of the day is that
pot causes cancer, I think we should run with it, opinion is
better than fact right?"

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chubba]
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Chubba said:
It's well known that governments restrict funding and cannabis itself to any research that shows cannabis is positive.




they can ban private funding, they can prohibit the research though

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I can run a vaporizer through a bong, vaporizer 50g+ and get high all day everyday for months on end.

At the end of it, the water is basically clear, with a slight yellow resin tinge.

1g of combusted smoke would dirty up the bong far greater.




maybe because you're actually buring more organic matter,
producing carbon as well as what ever is in the smoke

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I have no idea how you deduced that from reading the wikipedia section

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chubba]
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Chubba said:
Get a vaporizer.

Less lung damage, better quality high, uses less material.

Tastes better, little to no smell.

:vaped: vapes are the greatest invention ever




you're forgetting the Shamwow, the vaporizor is the potheads
equivelent, everyone has to have one

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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maybe because you're actually buring more organic matter,
producing carbon as well as what ever is in the smoke



So how is vaporizing not significantly healthier then?

Am I missing something here?

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Green Dragon... Made with hash... :vaped:


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:cool: Fair is Fair :devil:

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chespirito]
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Chespirito said:
I have no idea how you deduced that from reading the wikipedia section




it states plainly that researchers have found no link what soever
to cannabis and cancer yet they're still insisting it does

it's voodoo science

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Huh?  It gives two citations to researchers claiming the opposite

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chubba]
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Chubba said:
Quote:
maybe because you're actually buring more organic matter,
producing carbon as well as what ever is in the smoke



So how is vaporizing not significantly healthier then?

Am I missing something here?




how is it significantly healthier, because of the claims by an
ad in high times? is it because some pro marijuana 'research
lab' has deemed it to be so, how is it that with 483 chemicals
found in marijuana  only THC has a vaporization point low enough
that it suddenly makes smoking the material safe, what's the
vaporization temp for THC, what's that temperature for the
hydrocarbon, alcohols, vitamins, ketones, sugars, etc...


every 'study' I've seen is presented by corporations or some
other pro pot organization... of course there cant be a bias there

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chespirito]
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Chespirito said:
Huh?  It gives two citations to researchers claiming the opposite




Quote:
recent studies have been unable to demonstrate a direct link between lung cancer and frequent direct inhalation of marijuana smoke. While many researchers have failed to find a correlation,[28][29] some researchers still conclude that cannabis smoke poses a higher risk of lung cancer than tobacco.



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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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how is it significantly healthier



...because my bong is 50-100x cleaner when I pass vapor through it then smoke?

Seems pretty legit.

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Chubba]
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my butt is 100x cleaner when I use toluene, that doesnt mean it's healthier

seems most herbs vaporized are at temperatures a good bit lower
than marijuana, MJ is done at around 200C, tobacco, lemon balm and
ginko is as low as 140C, lavender vapes at 130C, cloves at 135C


still believing the propaganda, aside from the cannabinols what else is in that 'vapor'

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Re: Pot and your Lungs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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my butt is 100x cleaner when I use toluene, that doesnt mean it's healthier



I know one thing for sure, it definitely causes less stress on MY lungs.

I ride A grade criterium/train 7 days a week. I noticed an immediate performance increase once I quit smoking and started vaporizing, my lungs are feeling better everyday.

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