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big weekend for michigan marijuana... * 1
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the MDCH released applications for michigan medical marijuana cards yesterday

http://michigan.gov/documents/mdch/Medical_Marihuana_Packet_3-27-09_272862_7.pdfthey

they will start receiving them this coming weekend during Ann Arbor's annual Hash Bash. Over 200 applicants out of over 600 that are known have recommendations already are expected to meet with MDCH officials, after a short bus ride to the capital from Hasbash, to turn in the first applications.. the press will be covering this pretty heavily to my understanding.

more information on this weekend's event can be found at:

http://www.michiganmedicalmarijuana.org

If you haven't been to hash bash and have a chance to go i recommend it.. I've been to it twice and smoked freely while walking around the event, even while passing an officer. however they do put a lot of narcs in the crowd to try to buy pot. popped a friend of mine in 2004 that way. the big protest and march is usually crazy with TONS of people marching with marijuana reform signs and clothing and hundreds of lit joints. the booths usually have some cool stuff to offer and there's always tons of great people to meet. this is the 39th annual hash bash...

Jack Herer is expected to be at hash bash this year. the organizers suggest not pass joints and pipes, but to smoke your own for the event. they say "it's not the puffin, it's the passin" that will get you busted at the event.


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♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫
lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: CosmicFunGuy] * 1
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rock and roll.

i definitely voted for this, and had been wondering what was going to come of it (i mean, i knew the outcome of the ballot initiative, but hadn't heard anything since then)


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: Krishna] * 1
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HASH BASH.  My work is right in front of Hash Bash, I'm skeptical about going, I saw my boss there last year so I think we were on the same page, both being caught there and all. I'm definitaley having a giant barbeque, for afterwards

I'M SO EXCITED!!!!:awebig:


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: kay62105] * 1
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Wow, Hashbash BBQ afterparty, FTW!!

We need some good legislation passed in Alabama. This state is ass backwards as hell, though. It'll be a long time coming for change in that regards down here, I think.


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Re: big weekend for Michigan marijuana... [Re: kay62105] * 1
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How is that gonna work for you Michiganders w/ a card?Will you be able to grow your own up to a certain amount or what? I haven't been to the bash since 78 orso imagine it's changed a bit.It' been a long time coming.Fight the good fight.


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Re: big weekend for Michigan marijuana... [Re: 1stusinspace] * 1
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Oh man it's at the tip of my tounge and forgive me if this is wrong but I think his name is John Sinclair.  The original starter of the hash bash, they guy arrested for having two joints on him.  He gave the speech last year, it was pretty kick ass.


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: Krishna] * 1
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lots has been going on with it, but they'll start issuing the first cards in a couple weeks after applications go through review.

that michigan medical marijuana association site i posted has everything you could ever want to know about the new law. or search my post history i've tried to post anything important and related to it here.

I know a few of the bigger organizations that have been growing since the law passed already have plans to start petitioning the MDCH for new conditions to the list.

also such as is my case if you have a legitamate medical use, but it's not covered by the MDCH rules, while you won't be able to get a card, you can use the affirmative defense if you get busted. My condition is expected to be on the list soon, as a few seperate groups of lawyers and medical professionals behind us have plans to petition for it. until then if i get arrested, i've got a doctor's note, which means when i get to court the judge has to dismiss the case once he verifies the authenticity of the recommendation and evidence (not proof) of the doctor's claim that it would provide therapeutic or palliative effect. affirmative defense can also cover having more than the legal amount thanks to the 'necessary amount' clause.

there's a THCF clinic (the hemp and cannabis foundation) with doctor's giving recommendations in southfield, a couple more soon to open (ann arbor and grand rapids i believe). Also doctor's from qualifyingpatient.com are seeing people, but there is no clinic yet. There are clubs in Traverse city, genessee county area, kzoo, and a couple in detroit area and near the universities.

a few of us are trying to organize a club for the grand Rapids area, but there seems to be a lack of patients here compared to the rest of the state..

before my condition gets passed though, i plan on being a caregiver to a few of what patients there are around here.


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♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫
lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: CosmicFunGuy] * 1
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sounds very cool, I wish I could go!

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: mr_x99] * 1
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Do you live in MI, or the Toledo/Northern Ohio area?


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Re: big weekend for Michigan marijuana... [Re: 1stusinspace] * 1
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1stusinspace said:
How is that gonna work for you Michiganders w/ a card?Will you be able to grow your own up to a certain amount or what? I haven't been to the bash since 78 orso imagine it's changed a bit.It' been a long time coming.Fight the good fight.


grow or buy (although sale is still illegal, so most are expected to grow or have caregivers to grow for them)

you can have up to 2.5 oz usable marijuana at any one time and up to 12 plants

as a caregiver you can have up to 5 patients and 12 plants per patient...

in my soon to be scenario, i will be maxed out with 5 patients plus myself. hitting the maximum 72 plants grown by  one person.. i plan on starting a compassion club with some fellow caregivers though. until i have my card though i will continue to buy for myself as it's not a violation of the rules and getting caught using other patients medical marijuana bans me from being a caregiver in the state for life. I COULD just grow my 12 plants as well, but i expect to be legal soon enough so i'm fine with  buying until then as i have for a while.. less chance of a hassle.

caregiver's can receive compensation for services but not for marijuana.. the patients own the plant... you can sell a new clone to them though if you've got room to grow another plant for them.. my understanding is also that unrooted clones do not count as plants, but the 12 plants are any marijuana plants with roots.


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♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫
lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: kay62105] * 1
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Can you get it for your depression and anxiety?


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: doom876] * 1
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not yet, but mental conditions including but not limited to depression/anxiety/bipolar are expected to be among the first conditions petitioned... most behind the movement expect to see such conditions added to the list before the end of summer.

there's a fairly nice list of conditions that are planned on being petitioned to the MDCH. there are at least 3 groups planning to petition for depression/anxiety/bipolar. with the attitude of the MDCH in cooperating with voters and those behind this movement and our lawyers, we expect little problems in the addition of conditions. after the release of the initial MDCH rules which outraged many in the medical marijuana movement, representatives of the MDCH began a public hearing by saying that this was OUR law, that the people of michigan passed it, and they don't know how to go about making the rules, so tell them how.

and we did... a little over a month later they changed EVERYTHING that we said need to be changed, no questions asked...


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♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫
lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: blissedout] * 1
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We have tried before.

"Legislation has been introduced in Alabama to allow access to medical marijuana. The bill is HB703. According to the Montgomery Advertiser on April 1, 2005 ( "State Pushed On Medical Marijuana"), "Laura Campbell knows it's illegal for her to smoke pot. But the 32-year-old mother of three has a debilitating illness that ravages her joints and causes excruciating pain, often leaving her crouched in the fetal position and rocking in agony. She and others like her want the Alabama Legislature to pass a law making medicinal use of marijuana legal. State Rep. Laura Hall, D-Huntsville, is pushing legislation that would legalize the use of the drug for the seriously ill and dying. Campbell, who suffers from three forms of arthritis and fibromyalgia, is hopeful the bill will make its way to the governor's desk and be signed into law. 'I take 14 pills a day,' Campbell said during a news conference announcing the proposed legislation Thursday. 'It hurts so bad, you shake. You can't find a physician to make the pain stop.'

The Advertiser noted that "Under the proposed legislation, use of marijuana would be strictly limited to medicinal purposes, said Hall, the principal sponsor. 'It's with a doctor's recommendation,' Hall said. 'It would be illegal for an individual to get it and sell it.' Hall's measure would allow patients access to marijuana for relief of their symptoms. Similar measures have found support in other states, and a poll last year indicated a healthy majority of Alabamians backed the idea. According to the survey by the Mobile Register and the University of South Alabama, 76 percent of Alabama residents believe adults should be allowed to use marijuana if their physicians recommended it. Despite public opinion, Gov. Bob Riley said he would not support such a measure. 'There's no way I can support legalization of marijuana or any other illegal drug,' the governor said Thursday. 'There are a multitude of other prescription options I think are still viable.'"

For more information on the Alabama effort, check out Alabamians for Caring Use."

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: CosmicFunGuy] * 1
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i don't really see medical marijuana as a good solution for anxiety or depression.

i understand for many people the idea is to get marijuana as legal and available as possible, but personally i think working like that has the potential to have serious repercussions (as instead of winning over people who are against pot but might be for it for medical purposes, you risk alienating them)


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: Krishna] * 1
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Krishna said:
i don't really see medical marijuana as a good solution for anxiety or depression.

i understand for many people the idea is to get marijuana as legal and available as possible, but personally i think working like that has the potential to have serious repercussions (as instead of winning over people who are against pot but might be for it for medical purposes, you risk alienating them)


For the second part, noone seems to alienated yet and the movement is growing and doing very well.

For the first part, I could give a fuck less what you see, because it's worked for me for almost three years.


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: Krishna] * 1
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Krishna said:
i don't really see medical marijuana as a good solution for anxiety or depression.

i understand for many people the idea is to get marijuana as legal and available as possible, but personally i think working like that has the potential to have serious repercussions (as instead of winning over people who are against pot but might be for it for medical purposes, you risk alienating them)


used responsibly it's a great solution... although i understand your concerns and do have worrys about how other people might handle it.

i'm bipolar. without marijuana i'd either be in jail, a mental institution or completely zombified on a huge list of pharms.. This is FACT, it's been tried and i'm just a completely different person.

I was diagnosed with bi polar when i was 18, now 26 yrs old. I spent the first 3 years after my diagnosis in and out of hospitals and institutions, on a plethora of different prescribed medications to 'help' me. I never saw my family during this time, because while they were supportive of me and wanted me to get treatment, it broke their hearts to see me as a zombie on so many medications and they couldn't face me in that condition. From the age of 22-24 i discovered how marijuana helped my bipolar when used regularly. I noticed how it didn't matter what end of bipolar I was on it could still help, I also noticed that different marijuana had different effects.


Before my bipolar was diagnosed, i couldn't hold a job. Either, because i wouldn't care enough(depression), couldn't focus enough(mania) or just sucked because i kept going through so many states of unaltered  consciousness that i couldn't get it right. After my diagnosis i tried working a few more times, but basically failed miserably because i was a zombie on antidepressants and anti psychotics. I soon started receiving federal aid for my disability. I was receiving SSD (social security disability) and SSI (supplemental security income). Well having a debilitating medical condition that prevented me from having a job i found myself with a lot of time to spend my disabiliity money and a warped mind to decide what was good idea and a bad idea. i made some bad choices that i'm not proud of, but i cannot deny them. After a couple more hospital visits and arrests i decided i needed to find a way to be a normal member of society so i wouldn't have so much time to fuck everything up and blow my money on stupid stuff making it so i couldn't afford to eat.

It was at this time my research into using marijuana as medicine began. I began to understand the difference between indica and sativa and how indica's were really nice for calming me down in a manic state. It didn't matter whether i was just hyper or whether i was furious raging over something. I often found myself punching holes in walls or pacing around frantically, like a lost dog. Other times my anxiety would spiral out of control and i'd become so paranoid of absolutely nothing, except for the creations in my head and I'd start rambling nonsense. However, there was something about a couple hits of a fine indica and i was back to a level perspective and could slow myself down, take a few breaths, relax and realize i'd lost control. I could also find it within myself to make conscious effort to learn from my mistakes and make better choices should the scenario arise again. Medications to help my manic states and high end of the bipolar spectrum didn't help like this at all, they prevented me from entering enraged or manic states by basically making me unconscious and immobilizing me.

I also began to recognize the power of a sativa and it's cognitive effect. I found myself motivated with new zest for life after smoking sativas, i always wanted to go out for a walk in nature or something after smoking. I started using sativa's when i got depressed and every time, before the joint or bowl was done i was joking with someone with a silly smirk on my face, wanting to do something and slowly forgetting about the pit of despair from whence i'd just came. I found with sativas an uncanny ability to keep myself out of my usual cycles of running myself into the ground with depressing thoughts. I also discovered the beauty in everything around me thanks to my long wooded walks in nature with sativas. the beauty in everything helps keep me going these days and it's only because of marijuana that i ever saw it.

Now at 26 years old, I've stopped receiving SSI as an aid because i find my newly balanced self able to hold down a job and make sense of everything. I'm nearly a fully fledged normal taxpaying member of society now. My family doctor admits it's nearly impossible to notice my symptoms when i've been smoking marijuana, even though they're against it for other reasons (as many doctors are unfortunately). They also admit they see no need to change my treatment (marijuana, meditation, excercise and healthy diet, no pharms involved).

I've since gotten copies of my medical history and took a trip to a group who is giving recommendations from licensed MDs and has a team of lawyers  planning to petition for a list of mental disorders. I now am halfway legit... soon enough bipolar along with depression and anxiety will make it to the list for better or worse. there's too many people pushing for it, for it not to happen.

While i do stand by the fact that it works for me, it won't work for everyone. As is the case with every medication. Unfortunately because it's pretty easy to get diagnosed depressed, i fear many people will abuse the system and tighter laws will be made...

for me nothing really changes, except i'm legally going to be helping a few patients with SERIOUS conditions that are unable to grow for themselves. My usage won't change and i don't plan on breaking caregiver rules, so i won't be smoking theirs. I will continue getting from compassionate people who can provide me with what i need as i always do until i can grow for myself legally.


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♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫
lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)

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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: CosmicFunGuy] * 1
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Damn good post, man. I'm glad that you have found your balance. Even moreso because herb is the reason. Awesome.


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: CosmicFunGuy] * 1
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Hell yeah proposal 1 FTW! I'll try to be at the Hash Bash this year but I'm not sure. Anyone hear about the marijuana march in Detroit this year? I think its May 2nd.


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: CosmicFunGuy] * 1
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damn, well at least in this one anecdotal example, i stand corrected.

i wasn't speaking from any data or anything, just my own experience - having marijuana-induced anxiety attacks a few times, and being "burned out" leading to something akin to a prolonged mild depression.

at the end of the day, i'm a firm believer that this choice should be left up to the individual. however, being pragmatic, i think we'll get further in the short run by saying it should be a decision between an individual and his/her doctor, and not necessarily making this an issue of liberty so much as an issue of medical care.


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Re: big weekend for michigan marijuana... [Re: Krishna] * 1
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W3rd.


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