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danlennon3
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best way to grow
#1004570 - 10/29/02 09:26 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive done shrooms countless times and i want to start growing them... im not gonna ask how to grow i was wondering what supplies i should get and where i wanted to start off easy like with those bags so i was wondering what kind of bag i should get and what syringe works best. i wanna get them from one site so what is a site the you can trust and has good prices. i really appreciate help
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1004582 - 10/29/02 09:31 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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The easiest and most reliable way to get started is by following the PF Tek. Most supplies can be found at Wal-Mart and grocery stores. As for using myco-bags, I've never used them.
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Llamanose
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1004591 - 10/29/02 09:34 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Check dis out.... MMGG Probably the easiest (i.e. most foolproof) method of growing decent yields.
Mycobags are more expensive in the long run, and I hear they don't yield too great but i don't have any experience with em.
Go with Sporeworks for buying supplies, they are fast, professional, and just a good company. They give good descriptions of different strains too.
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1004597 - 10/29/02 09:37 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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How much time, effort, and money do you want to put into it? You can buy a mushroom kit with EVERYTHING included (including spores) from:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1782224738 (must buy within the next 20 hours) or http://www.homesteadbook.com/ezgromushroomkit.html
There may be other sites that sell similar kits as well. Definitely the EASIEST way to get started.
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danlennon3
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1004605 - 10/29/02 09:41 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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well i just wanted to start off with the bags at first to learn how they grow because im a total newbie. if i have success with the bags im planning on buying a mini kit or something. money is not an issue, space is an issue for me. i saw different bags online, they were regular and philosiphers dont really know the difference, i just want bag that yeilds the most and what syringe should i get?
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1004628 - 10/29/02 09:52 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Philosopher's Bag produces sclerotia, regular bags produce fruits. Just do the PF tek, its easy, and its probably the best way for someone new to this hobby to get a good understanding of the mushroom life cycle. Once you do that, you can worry about which tek yields the most.
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danlennon3
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Re: best way to grow [Re: Skikid16]
#1004675 - 10/29/02 10:07 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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whats the dif between sclerotia and fruits? i know i might sound dumb but i know nothing
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#1005165 - 10/30/02 02:16 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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mickey_rourke
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Re: best way to grow [Re: ]
#1005184 - 10/30/02 02:30 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes and no. The MMGG is a modified version of the PF-Tek. I prefer the PF-Tek over the MMGG.
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Anno
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1005257 - 10/30/02 04:48 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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>whats the dif between sclerotia and fruits? i know i might sound dumb but i know nothing
You can do something to change this.
Read www.shroomery.org/forums/faq.php .
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danlennon3
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Re: best way to grow [Re: Anno]
#1005553 - 10/30/02 09:00 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok so i read a little but why would anyone want to produce Sclerotium anyway, is the fruit what we want?
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BC-Shroom
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1005757 - 10/30/02 10:13 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you live in Canada BC, you can get a fully colonized bag (4.5lb) for 40$CA + tax(14%). If interested ask me where.
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danlennon3
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Re: best way to grow [Re: BC-Shroom]
#1006139 - 10/30/02 11:37 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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is pf tek the one where you use jars and put them in a plastic container, if so, how long does it usually take to produce?
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Theta
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1006309 - 10/30/02 12:11 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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In reply to:
is pf tek the one where you use jars and put them in a plastic container, if so, how long does it usually take to produce?
It's the most prescribed beginner tek where you colonize a cake in a jar and, following the appropriate steps, plop the sucker out into an appropriate terrarium. PF Tek
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1006499 - 10/30/02 01:08 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do the PF-Tek!
About 3 weeks ago I started growing mushrooms. It's bloody well easy, my first birthed cakes are fruiting as we speak, and the first mushroom to pop up is probably going to tear its veil and spread its cap this evening sometime. It is not worth it to spend the money on any myco bags or anything. The thing to do is get the jars, mix the substrate, sterilize and innoculate all yourself. I have innoculated 22 jars and have no signs of contamination. It is dead simple, and you're going to have to learn how to do the PF-tek SOMETIME if you're going to continue growing mushrooms so you may as well right now. Trust me, I was in your shoes a month ago, and it's a matter of days now before I trip for the first time on my own shrooms. Order a spore syringe of whichever psilocybe cubensis strain looks the coolest, and while you wait for it to arrive, prepare yourself by reading throught the entire PF-Tek until you have a strong sense of the process without having to constantly refer back to it, and then if you are unclear on any aspect of it, then supplement it by reading any of the other millions of documents on this site. By the time your syringe comes, you'll be ready to rock!
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danlennon3
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Re: best way to grow [Re: Dogomush]
#1006520 - 10/30/02 01:16 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok i think im gonna go for the mini deluxe kit from the spore trading post.. is that a good idea? good reliable site??? also, can i use my own plastic continer instead of the one it comes with?
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1006535 - 10/30/02 01:19 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you want a fun and interesting hobby, use the PF Tek. If you just want some drugs for cheap buy a kit.
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danlennon3
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Re: best way to grow [Re: BitchCakes]
#1006578 - 10/30/02 01:34 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought that kit was using the pf method...
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Cheeba
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Re: best way to grow [Re: danlennon3]
#1006615 - 10/30/02 01:42 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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ermmm...in my most humble opinion...Keeper from the STP is a HARDCORE hosejob!!!!!!!! DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT go for the mini kit from STP. I have experience with that Keeper-bitch so I am highly qualified to rag about him. He has 100's of my dollars....95$ going toward that Z-STRAIN which is nothing other than GT's...which you can get for a DOLLAR from our fine FSRA!!!! Keepers mini kit is a HUGE wast of time (yes, I know from experience). Do yourself a IMMENSILY LARGE favor. Do a bit of reading...studing up and use the hard earned money you're willing to give to Keeper-bitch toward buying yourself some jars, substrate material, and a decent spore syringe and do it yourself. Its fun, you learn alot, and the results will be that much more satisfying knowing your babies were of your own creation....plus your own personal hands on experience will give you the confidence you need to carry on, being totally self sufficient shroom grower. If I can give you any additional advice, please PM me....but for the love of god, DON'T support STP...who is only out to fleece newbies!!!! If I could save just ONE person from Keeper-bitches clutches, I'll feel good about myself!!!! Love, Cheeba
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Re: best way to grow [Re: BitchCakes]
#1006642 - 10/30/02 01:48 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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>If you want a fun and interesting hobby, use the PF Tek. If you just want some drugs for cheap buy a kit.<
These are wise words.
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