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Copyright inquiry.
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If I have a piece of writing that I e-mail to myself, and I have the dated email both in my sent and inbox, is that essentially the same in the current era as it used to be if you printed it out, mailed it to yourself, and left the envelope unopened as proof that you wrote the piece and were the first to put it anywhere?

I wrote a poem in Israel about Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum there, and I think - if you'll allow me an immodest moment - that it's quite good and I'd like to try to get it published. However I'd like to, in the immediate run, share it with the people I went on the trip with. And not that I don't trust them all, and they've all heard it before (I recited it to them on our last day together), but you know, just in case I want to make sure I can prove that it is mine when I send it around to publishers in case someone else reprints it.

Any ideas on this?


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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I'm no expert, but I believe so. From my understanding everything you ever do is automatically copyrighted. The reason you mail it to yourself isn't because it is then copyrighted, it's just so that you can get a date stamp on it and prove when you wrote it.

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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I'm not sure about e-mail it seems like it would be too easy to forge.


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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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From what I understand, even physically mailing it to yourself achieves nothing in court.


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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I'm definitely not a lawyer, but have heard things like this before (e.g. mail yourself something and keep it dated).

How does a date prove anything?  I think in a court of law the most you could ever prove was that you were the first person to mail or email yourself something.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: badchad]
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from copyright.gov
The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a “poor man’s copyright.” There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is not a substitute for registration.


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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: badchad]
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If some company went to try and get something you wrote copyrighted and they're copyright date is after the date that the mail was stamped then does that not bring their copyright claims into question? I don't know if that's proof enough that you have the rights to it, but it should be proof enough that they don't.

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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Hrmmm, well best you share it with us ASAP. One of us will try to claim it as our own, then we can start a mock up legal battle to see what happens.

In the end all rights will be relinquished by which ever one of us bastards steals it and returned to you.

And you will be smarter for the experience.

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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Take a photo of yourself holding the poem at the Inauguration or other unfakable well know event.  :shrug: lol


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Re: Copyright inquiry. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Surely the message is more important than who wrote it :shrug:?


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