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Assisted suicide in Montana legalized.
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http://www.freep.com/article/20081206/NEWS07/81206044/1118/RSS

Assisted suicide legal in Montana, judge rules

HELENA, Mont. — A judge has ruled that doctor-assisted suicides are legal in Montana, a decision likely to be appealed as the state argues that the Legislature, not the court, should decide whether terminally ill patients have the right to take their own life.

Judge Dorothy McCarter issued the ruling late Friday in the case of a Billings man with terminal cancer, who had sued the state with four physicians that treat terminally ill patients and a nonprofit patients’ rights group.

“The Montana constitutional rights of individual privacy and human dignity, taken together, encompass the right of a competent terminally (ill) patient to die with dignity,” McCarter said in the ruling.

It also said those patients had the right to obtain self-administered medications to hasten death if they find their suffering to be unbearable, and that physicians can prescribe such medication without fear of prosecution. “The patient’s right to die with dignity includes protection of the patient’s physician from liability under the state’s homicide statutes,” the judge wrote.

Attorney General Mike McGrath said today that attorneys in his office would discuss the ruling next week and expected the state will appeal the ruling.

“It’s a major constitutional issue, and the Supreme Court should rule on it,” said McGrath, who will be sworn in as chief justice of the Montana Supreme Court in January.

The plaintiff, Robert Baxter, said he was comforted by McCarter’s ruling. “I am glad to know that the court respects my choice to die with dignity if my situation becomes intolerable,” the 75-year-old retired truck driver said in a statement.

Kathryn Tucker, legal director of patients’ right group Compassion & Choices who helped argue the case, said the court found “it is the individual patients who should be entitled to make these critical decisions for themselves and their families, and not the government.”

The state attorney general’s office had argued that intentionally taking a life was illegal, and that the issue was the Legislature’s responsibility.

Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Anders had argued the state has no evaluation process, safeguards or regulations to provide guidance or oversight for doctor-assisted suicide. The state also said it was premature to declare constitutional rights for a competent, terminally ill patient because the terms “competent” or “terminally ill” had yet to be defined.

The ruling noted that doctors are often asked to “determine the competency of their patients for the purposes of guardianship and other legal proceedings.”

“Whether a patient is terminally ill can also be determined by the physician as an integral component of the physician-patient relationship,” McCarter wrote.

McCarter’s ruling makes Montana the third state after Oregon and Washington to allow doctor-assisted suicides. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1997 that terminally ill patients have no constitutional right to doctor-assisted suicide but did nothing to prevent states from legalizing the process.


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individuals lives are now their own.. glad this ruling cleared that up. 


without the sarcasm, i think its a good step


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: anyone420]
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:awesome:  we're heading in the right direction then


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: anyone420]
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imagine if they counted those 1 in 5 nutters as unworthy beings like the japs and nazis did and euthanized the lot of them :lol:

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: filthee]
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filthee said:
imagine if they counted those 1 in 5 nutters as unworthy beings like the japs and nazis did and euthanized the lot of them :lol:



what do you mean exactly?


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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"Your honor, this was not a case of possession with intent. I was attempting suicide by smoking 10 lbs of medicinal cannabis."

This opens up some interesting opportunities.

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: koraks]
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koraks said:
"Your honor, this was not a case of possession with intent. I was attempting suicide by smoking 10 lbs of medicinal cannabis."

This opens up some interesting opportunities.



they won't buy that


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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They will if it works :thumbup:

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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anyones fair game to be euthanized these days

kinda scary in a soylent green type of way

over 30 anyone?:eek:

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: filthee]
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filthee said:
anyones fair game to be euthanized these days




that's bullshit.  They won't even consider it unless you are terminally ill and it's only legal in Oregon.Washington, and Montana now, but doctors will only prescribe the lethal dose and the patients have to take it themselves.


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Edited by AmericanPsycho (12/07/08 11:19 AM)

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: anyone420]
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man, what the fuck is wrong with the world?

Suicide = hell


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: aDoS]
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aDoS said:
man, what the fuck is wrong with the world?

Suicide = hell



:rolleyes:


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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AmericanPsycho said:
filthee said:
anyones fair game to be euthanized these days




that's bullshit.  They won't even consider it unless you are terminally ill and it's only legal in Oregon.Washington, and Montana now, but doctors will only prescribe the lethal dose and the patients have to take it themselves.




bullshit happens

today terminally ill tomorow the genetically inferior

not that id be on the list

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: filthee]
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filthee said:
AmericanPsycho said:
filthee said:
anyones fair game to be euthanized these days




that's bullshit.  They won't even consider it unless you are terminally ill and it's only legal in Oregon.Washington, and Montana now, but doctors will only prescribe the lethal dose and the patients have to take it themselves.



today terminally ill tomorow the genetically inferior




I'm saying bullshit because of how strict the laws are on euthanasia.  I think everyone should have the choice regardless of your physical status.


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: aDoS]
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aDoS said:
man, what the fuck is wrong with the world?

Suicide = hell



Lol ,your already there ..
What do you call a place where your born into ignorance ,no clue why we are here,everyones as confused as you are and everyone dies for no good reason,people go thru years of suffering with no help,people are starving to death ,people are getting trampled to death in a toy store,our elected liars care not for your life plans and about the time you get a clue ,you die.................................................................sounds grand ,when can I have more kids ,so I can put them thru this too.... :nonono:


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: unretarded]
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Life is suffering.
--Buddha


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: unretarded]
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unretarded said:
aDoS said:
man, what the fuck is wrong with the world?

Suicide = hell



Lol ,your already there ..
What do you call a place where your born into ignorance ,no clue why we are here,everyones as confused as you are and everyone dies for no good reason,people go thru years of suffering with no help,people are starving to death ,people are getting trampled to death in a toy store,our elected liars care not for your life plans and about the time you get a clue ,you die.................................................................sounds grand ,when can I have more kids ,so I can put them thru this too.... :nonono:



That's exactly what I've been thinking.  Parents basically have kids to give their own lives a purpose.  We were put here without a choice and when are old enough we are forced to survive by ourselves.  Then the process continues....It's fucked up, that's why I'm not being responsible for putting another human being through this life.


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: aDoS]
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aDoS said:
man, what the fuck is wrong with the world?

Suicide = hell



You can put a fucking dog out of it's misery, but some us poor humans have to suffer for years thanks to that attitude.
I wish a slow and painful death for anyone who opposes euthanasia. Let them undergo the suffering their belief in fairytales inflicts upon others.

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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: koppie]
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koppie said:
aDoS said:
man, what the fuck is wrong with the world?

Suicide = hell



You can put a fucking dog out of it's misery, but some us poor humans have to suffer for years thanks to that attitude.
I wish a slow and painful death for anyone who opposes euthanasia. Let them undergo the suffering their belief in fairytales inflicts upon others.



:yesnod:


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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Just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't legalizing suicide essentially legalize making it easy to inflict needless suffering on your friends and family when they hear of your senseless death?

Survivors of a friend's suicide generally are affected for years after the incident, and will be permanently changed.  Do you think parents will cope well with the death of their son or daughter?  How about a spouse?


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Re: Assisted suicide in Montana legalized. [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
Just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't legalizing suicide essentially legalize making it easy to inflict needless suffering on your friends and family when they hear of your senseless death?

Survivors of a friend's suicide generally are affected for years after the incident, and will be permanently changed.  Do you think parents will cope well with the death of their son or daughter?  How about a spouse?



I've thought of this as well, but then I thought that it doesn't really matter because if they are really wanting to die they will shoot themselves in the head and the friends/family will suffer just as much.

Euthanasia at least gives us the option to a guaranteed and painless death without any mess afterwards.


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