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A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot
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in the middle of october i met this girl at a partial program i was attending.  we hit it off right away, real pretty type and generally passionate and outspoken about herself.  but i really wasn't looking to get into anything real involved, and i could see that she was a real social outgoer, like bars everynight and never exclusive. tons of men friends, but seemed she could hold a strong meaning of fidelity. 

so we got together outside of the program, saw a movie and browsed a natural food grocery store, ate something drank at her house...

kept talking after and a few days later we "hooked up".  now, this happens rather often, not necessarily in my case, but i still didn't expect anything from it, but she seemed very committed to me and when that happens i feel the same.

right, so while this is all happening...i couldn't get a hold of her for almost three days because she took a bottle of ativan on a sunday night and says she slept through till tuesday night, which i don't believe but i do know she took the bottle so who knows.

she was also a cutter, she used her fingernails though which i didn't think was that serious but psychs say it's the worst and she was very diligent about it, seeing no problem with doing it as she'd been doing this for awhile.

let me also add, she's 25 and i'm 24.

on top of this shit, several weeks before her boyfriend of half a year, who was 35!, called her something she took to heart and hadn't talked to him since and really wanted nothing to do with him anymore.  she got rid of him pretty easy and it didn't seem to bother her, which should have been a red alarm for me, but i'm oblivious to everything.

also, she hadn't been able to work in a month and was in debt, about $850 in debt.

oh, and she also had lime disease and was loaded on antibiotics and then they found another rash so they loaded her more.

she also was considering doing a one night escort service at this place she found in philly through craigslist for this guy who would pay her $3000 for the night with no sex or kissing.  she said she wouldn't do it if i didn't want her to, and actually i said it sounded like a good deal and she should consider it.  hah!  but really, why not? 
but she had values though and said she would never be able to go through with it, she's not that type of person who can act like she's enjoying herself.
blah.

so...me being generous and helpful bullshit...she had originally, before we even talked about doing something outside of this partial program, talked about how much she was in debt and it really bothered her and she brought it up in groups often and what concerned me, especially after she overdosed on ativan, was that stressed caused her to do this stupid shit, just like it does everyone, but i didn't want to see her cut herself anymore or put down bottles of pills with vodka - which is something else she had a problem with - drinking.  this girl only weighed a little over 100.  very petite and pretty type

originally, before we hooked up, i had offered to help her out financially because i'm on ssi and i do have some money, though i'm very smart with it and i save and don't spend much besides what i'm giving to my parents since i'm back with them now for awhile.  also buy groceries sometimes and gas for my parents car which i drive.


i'm sorry i'm making this long, i'm ranting.

two weeks ago, a sunday, a few days after we had been hooking up, i go over to give her money which i told her i would give her to help her.  i figured since i'm going to be around with her for awhile, and i have this money which she probably needs more than i do, i wanted to help her out and get her back on her feet.

well, i gave her $1000.  the day i gave it to her she seemed off and i noticed it.  real distant from me already, even before i gave it to her.  i got her vitamins too because she treated her body like shit - woman's multi, omega 3 and vitamin C.

she thanked me but i left early because she seemed so distant and i sort of knew that i wouldn't be seeing this girl again.

another defining reason i gave her the money was because she always said, "no i can't take your money".  to me, well it is, this is humility and a respectable line.  and it was true, and the normal person wouldn't have given her the money but i wanted to help.

she didn't get back with that guy, maybe she did and is just a great lier, she probably did.  but even so, we didn't talk for the next week after she wouldn't return my calls for a couple days.  then five to seven days after that she texts me says she was worried about me and to just text her to say i was fine. 

i did and asked her why she blew me off, she said nothing.  i asked her if she would at least get me pot she said she would get me for helping her out, she said "well i'm not talking to billy anymore (her ex), so i have to look around for it".

obviously i expected not to get it and that was that and i haven't talked to her since.


I HAVE NEVER FELT MORE USED IN MY LIFE. 

i would say it was such a big mistake, but i'm glad i was able to help her, rightfully she did need the money more than me and i'm glad i was able to help.

but you just don't blow people off who help you like that, you just don't.  at least more of a thank you or something, i don't know.  a card or something, like, thanks for giving a shit and i'm sorry i lead you on with my pretty vagina and grin.

and it does bother me that she stopped being so "we're together".  because she completely led me on and was a tease, even though we hooked up and nonsense, i don't know what her motives were or why she talked so straight about how she's single and how much she relies on me and wants to be with me 24/7.

i still just feel disgustingly used.  i had to finally tell someone about it and i talked to my dad, and he was shocked at first how much i gave her but said just don't think about it, you helped someone less fortunate and i'm proud of you.

but that still doesn't comfort me completely.  even my x-girlfriend, my best friend coincidentally, said just take your loses and move on after i broke down and told her what i did.

they were the only two people i told. i just feel shitty about it all, especially losing what could have been maybe a decent relationship or at least something for a few months to remember as something positive.

but shit on me for being so helpful.  i don't necessarily regret helping her out, i don't regret it.  but i keep thinking what i could have done with that money, you know?  like for all i know, she bought season tickets to the phillies with the money.  here, i could have given it to some organization or my cousin who is pregnant, you know?  something where i would get the recognition that comes along with a good dead. 

that is what bothers me most, not knowing what the hell happened, having no closer, and never really getting a thorough thanks.  it shouldn't have happened like that. 

if this was some wicked divine prank for me to learn a valuable lesson, well shit on them.

i don't understand people.  i hate deceitfulness.  i know it's humility above acknowledgment when you do a good dead, but not like this, i didn't deserve to get blown off the way i did.


  i needed to write this out, sorry.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: Chikhai Bardo]
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cute cat and i understand but what the fuck?  this was a serious post on my part


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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sorry could you at least sum it up in a few sentences?

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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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I read the whole thing.  Sounds like you just got emotionally invested in the wrong person. 

If the money was a gift, why did you expect anything in return? 

Yes, you were used.  But you allowed it to happen.

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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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You gave $1000 to a girl you met in the middle of October...?

That's pretty extreme in my opinion... or maybe I'm just poor :shrug:


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: MOTH]
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MOTH said:
I read the whole thing.  Sounds like you just got emotionally invested in the wrong person. 

If the money was a gift, why did you expect anything in return? 

Yes, you were used.  But you allowed it to happen.



Indeed.

I can't believe you gave someone you know that little, $1000?!?!?  Heck, a hundred bucks would be nice, let alone a grand!  That deffinitly wasn't a good idea.

Yes, there were numerous red-flags...maybe you were blinded by the poontang, or were dead-set on only seeing the good in people?

Cutting + Alcohol Abuse + Pill Abuse + No money + Numerous guy-friends + Considering being a escort (hooker, don't try and sugar coat it) = dumb broad, a lost cause IMO:what2::omgawesome:

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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: MOTH]
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Wow sorry to hear about your troubles. Fuckin women......what else can you say.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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Sucker.  I'll bet she is getting dicked down by and getting  fucked up with her ex-boyfriend on your dollar.  The alarms in your head should have been going off so loud that other people could hear them.  Never give some trick your money, especially ones that you just met and boned.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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Alright, I read the whole thing

sounds to me like you hinted at a person who has some issues that she can't work through. That's just my opinion, though. Inconsistent with what she says and what she does. Cutting. In and out of relationships. Those are my indicators. Aside from that, I guess she sounds nice...

You said:
"i just feel shitty about it all, especially losing what could have been maybe a decent relationship or at least something for a few months to remember as something positive."

It sounds like she used you to get what she wanted, and then left after she achieved it. She was between a rock and a hard place, and you were her way out. If you hadn't caved, she eventually would have found a different way out, probably one that didn't involve you in any way shape or form.

I will say this, $1,000 is a lot of dough to shell out to anyone, especially on short notice and with no prior history to build your trust upon. But I commend you greatly for your faith in humanity. You are a bright light in the dark my friend. Regardless of the times you get burned, that's a great trait to have. I try to do the same, but I'm not always successful. And when I do get burned, I take comfort knowing that what I've given will come back in time.

Here's to you :heart:


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: Ogre812]
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yeah i've learned.  but i do get manipulated by people so easy.

i know the amount was extreme and now weeks after it happened, i know i shouldn't have given her that much.

but, the main reason i was comfortable giving her that amount was because we were basically "together".  a few more days like we had had and i would have been bringing her to see my family. 

she was just a nice person in general (working with mentally challenged as her previous job, now working as secretary/nurse type in a doctor's office) and i didn't expect to get fucked like that from someone of that status. 

i gave her that large amount up front like that because she needed to pay her rent and all her other bills that monday. 

blah blah.  even the bag of pot she promised may have felt it was slightly justifiable.  and i want to know she used the money for her rent.  that bothers me that i don't know for sure she did


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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Life lessons my friend......learn from them.

Even if I was going to give her money for her rent, I would have just given a check to her landlord and been like...SURPRISE  :quagmire:


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: Kickle]
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thanks kickle

we had been hooking up and she was pretty serious into us being together before she even knew i was going to actually give her the money.  if she did milk me for that because i hinted at it to her, wow, that's some damn good playing on her part and truthfully i have no idea if i would have caught it or not.

if she would have known, from the start, i was going to hand her a grand, then i would belive she lead me on.  but not knowing and acting like that, no i can't believe that. 

i just hope that once i actually gave her the money, that's not what made it actually get weird.  like she felt obligated for something then since it was such a large amount.  i don't know, it's over and i helped someone worse off than me. 

thanks for kind words kickle and all else :heart:


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Edited by badlydrawnboy (11/01/08 10:25 PM)

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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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Yeah dude, it sounds like you got used. However, she's not going to come out and tell you that, and that seems to be your best way of getting closure. So I guess pretty much the best thing to do at this point is just say "Fuck it." Sometimes you aren't given closure, so learn to produce your OWN closure, if that makes any sense. A "I got used, I gave that bitch a lot of money, and she doesn't want to talk to me anymore, I'm just going to learn a lesson from this and move on." type of thing. Good luck dude.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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If I knew you, and you told me that story, I would seriously punch you in the face.

Being kind is one thing; but if you act that stupid and give every pretty girl with a sob story a grand, you're going to be in the poor house and people are going to think you're mentally deficient.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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Actually, you deserve a nicer response than the one I just gave.

The reason my post was so angry is because you remind me of myself a few years ago.  I was just as naive and kind as you.

I gave this "friend" of mine 800 bucks to clear up his tickets, knowing full well I wouldn't see it again.
I got used over and over, until I found he was stealing large amounts of grass from me.

But you need to hear this- wise up man.  Don't let yourself get screwed, it will only make you become jaded and unhappy.  Help people out, but for God sakes know them a little better before you do.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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badlydrawnboy said:
we had been hooking up and she was pretty serious into us being together before she even knew i was going to actually give her the money.  if she did milk me for that because i hinted at it to her, wow, that's some damn good playing on her part and truthfully i have no idea if i would have caught it or not.



 
Women used to rely on men all the time for financial support. It still occurs more than you might think. It's very possible that she entered a relationship looking for some financial help, just knowing you're a responsible male would be enough info. She may not have suspected a grand, but a hundred bucks might not have slipped her mind.

When you think back on it, what prompted such a large amount of money? She was the one hinting that her financial situation was grim. She was the one getting closer and closer to you at the same time. Playing on what seems to be a strong and weak point for you.

I don't really know how much a grand is/was for you, but there's no point worrying over spilt milk. Money isn't real. Having a kind and caring heart is.

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badlydrawnboy said:thanks for kind words kickle and all else :heart:



No problem, I hope things look sunnier soon.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: badlydrawnboy]
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the second a woman mentions money or problems, I'm out the door...

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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: Kickle]
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I got the same feeling, she was definitely leading him up to it.

When he actually brought it to her, guilt probably struck her, making her be so emotionally distant from him.  She knew how it was going to turn out, and he suspected it.


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Re: A good deed that has been bothering me. tell me i'm an idiot [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
the second a woman mentions money or problems, I'm out the door...



Thats why the most devious ones let you bring it up as a way to impress them. Smart creatures they are; evil to the core, but smart.....and infuriatingly sexy.:naughty:


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