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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: wildchild68]
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it's an abuse of power by government, how is that not a serious situation


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: zappaisgod]
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She clearly should be fired and barred from receiving government employment ever again.

At the same time, this occurrence can not be extrapolated to become common practice under an Obama administration since this was an independent act and was not carried out base don a request by his campaign.

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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
Government union workers digging up personal information on the clock?




Welcome to NAZI GERMANY in 2008.


I'm thoroughly convinced you have no idea what the central tenets of the Nazi party were.

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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Redstorm]
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apparently there's several independent acts


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
pinkfloydms said:
A republican surely wouldn't ever do this. :rolleyes:



got linx?


How quickly we forget...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/mar/20/obama-passport-files-violated-2-workers-at-state-f/?page=2


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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come on now, that one doesnt count, try again


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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What the fuck?

Why not?

Accessing personal records improperly for political gain?

What is different about those two things?


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
What is different about those two things?


Obama is a legitimate political figure, shit like that needs
to happen to him, Joe the plumber is just a regular guy...
seems their rules are only strict when accessing the records
of 'prominent' people, would there have been an alert if
someone accessed the passport info of ol' Joe?



Quote:
"We have strict rules restricting access to passport records," Mr. McCormack said.

Each time an employee logs on to the passport-records network, they are informed that the records are protected by the Privacy Act and are "available only on a need-to-know basis," he said. But no technical bar prevents a person, once he is in the system, from gaining access to Privacy Act-protected records to which he has no "need-to-know" rights.

But the network has an electronic monitoring system that is tripped when an employee accesses a record of a prominent person, like Mr. Obama. The alarm then triggers an inquiry into the incident, and "when the answer is not satisfactory, a supervisor is notified."



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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Wait, I bet this doesn't count...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files_seen_as_extensive/

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WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the media, Senate officials told The Globe.



This type of thing happens all the time, come on.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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nope... certainly doesnt count, that's notorious criminals
spying on notorious criminals, again it's not government agents
prying into the affairs of the private individual, do you think
there would be  a big scandal if i t was the plumbers computer
being spied on?

no, of course not


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
What the fuck?

Why not?

Accessing personal records improperly for political gain?

What is different about those two things?


Ah yes, but whose political gain?  Clinton's, pumpkin, Clinton's.  I would also like to point out the most glaringly obvious difference, one even you should be able to ascertain.  Joe the Plumber is not (yet) running for office.  He is just some schmuck who dared, DARED, to confront the Messiah.  A private citizen minding his own damn business.  There are no depths the O-tards will not plumb to get the One in.  Obama called for his supporters to get in peoples' faces and lo and behold they sure are.  In their faces and records.  How sweet.


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Toledo police clerk charged in Joe The Plumber snooping case

Just in: The Toledo Police Department confirms that one of its records clerks has been charged with performing an unlawful search of Joe The Plumber’s records.

That makes two Ohio government employees identified in the snooping case. (Obama donor Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, approved a separate search. More are being investigated.)

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081028/NEWS02/810280240


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
it's an abuse of power by government, how is that not a serious situation


When did I ever say it wasn't a serious situation?

And your Joe the plumber/Obama distinction really doesn't work.


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: wildchild68]
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you seem to believe it's not a serious situation, you know
there's actually a supreme court ruling on this sort of abuse
of power

wildchild68 said:
I wasn't laughing at the situation, but rather your overstatement of how dire and horrible this development is.




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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
wildchild68 said:
:lol: :tinfoil: 


Since you seem to find this funny, I have one question.  Do you think it is OK for a government agent to investigate a private citizen for no other reason than that the citizen was audacious enough to question and disagree with a candidate?



THis is disgusting, but is a good reminder of why we need oversight for people with access to data.


When I worked at a hospital I, and many others, had access to anyone's insurance, address, phone, social security number, birthdate and place, and various other data bits that had ever been to the hospital (the one hospital in the county).  This was pretty much everyone in the county, and included regional primary care offices.


I could look up the judge/mayor/ whoever easily and take out a credit card in their name.  Ridiculous- I didn't need that information EVER yet I had it. 


I agree with zappa this is bullshit, but it is riduclous you call people whining about the patriot act to be daft.


Patriot act is unconsittutional in many parts and it is a pretty clear indicator of alot that's wrong with washington.


This has nothing to do with the patriot act, and both are wrong.

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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
you seem to believe it's not a serious situation, you know
there's actually a supreme court ruling on this sort of abuse
of power

wildchild68 said:
I wasn't laughing at the situation, but rather your overstatement of how dire and horrible this development is.





:confused:

Once again, I never said it wasn't serious. But Zappa's fear mongering blew the reality of the situation out of proportion like usual.


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: wildchild68]
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ah yes... fear mongering

what's it called when KoTT does it? rational thinking?


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
zappaisgod said:
wildchild68 said:
:lol: :tinfoil: 


Since you seem to find this funny, I have one question.  Do you think it is OK for a government agent to investigate a private citizen for no other reason than that the citizen was audacious enough to question and disagree with a candidate?



THis is disgusting, but is a good reminder of why we need oversight for people with access to data.


When I worked at a hospital I, and many others, had access to anyone's insurance, address, phone, social security number, birthdate and place, and various other data bits that had ever been to the hospital (the one hospital in the county).  This was pretty much everyone in the county, and included regional primary care offices.


I could look up the judge/mayor/ whoever easily and take out a credit card in their name.  Ridiculous- I didn't need that information EVER yet I had it. 


I agree with zappa this is bullshit, but it is riduclous you call people whining about the patriot act to be daft.


Patriot act is unconsittutional in many parts and it is a pretty clear indicator of alot that's wrong with washington.


This has nothing to do with the patriot act, and both are wrong.


I agree w/ you john, this invasion of privacy is beyond the pale, and most likely done for political gain.

I mean, finding out if the guy owes child support somewhere is just piling on. Uncovering that he is unlicensed and owes back taxes (btw, are those nuggets of info public knowledge?) went a long way to show that this guy's "dream" of just up and buying a $250k a year plumbing biz was just that, his "dream." It's smear tactics to bring up shit like this.

To be able to dig up such dirt on an Average Joe citizen just shows that in the age of the internet, its hard to keep anything a secret. Hell, if Joe lived in WI anyone could have run a simple court search (for free) to find out if he owes back child support (or at least has been sued or taken to court over that.) Now, if the DNC is tapping his phones and reading his emails, then its time to collectively don the  :tinfoil:


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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: lonestar2004]
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If Obama's the Fascist, then I guess McCain/Palin are the Communists.



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Re: Since KOTT wants to have a cunt hunt how about we start here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
ah yes... fear mongering

what's it called when KoTT does it? rational thinking?


Mmmm...nope, don't remember ever hinting at that either.


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