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First private space flight
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http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/space-x-did-it.html

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SpaceX has made history. Its privately developed rocket has made it into space.

After three failed launches, the company founded by Elon Musk worked all of the bugs out of their Falcon 1 launch vehicles.

The entire spectacle was broadcast live from Kwajalein Atoll in the South Pacific. Cameras mounted on the spacecraft showed our planet shrinking in the distance and the empty first stage engine falling back to Earth.

As the rocket ascended, cheers rang out during every crucial step of the launch sequence, and at the final stage their headquarters in Hawthorne, California erupted in excitement. (Wired.com viewed the launch over the Internet on SpaceX's live webcast.)

The tensest moment came just before stage separation. At that critical juncture, the third launch attempt had failed. This time, it worked out perfectly.

Eight minutes after leaving the ground, Falcon 1 reached a speed of 5200 meters per second and passed above the International Space Station.

"I don't know what to say... because my mind is just blown," said Musk, during a brief address to his staff after the successful launch. "This is just the first step of many."

The feat is a giant leap forward for privately-funded space ventures, and follows the spectacular 2004 suborbital flight of SpaceShipOne. (See related Wired Science story: "Space Visionaries Prove Naysayers Wrong - Again".)

Musk seemed almost overcome with emotion. In the coming years, his company will try to make space transportation ten times cheaper and more reliable.

After making a fortune as the co-founder of PayPal, he recruited some of the best aerospace engineers in the world and challenged them to build a launch vehicle from scratch.

SpaceX had scrubbed its fourth launch attempt just a week earlier to swap out a liquid oxygen feed line, signaling the extreme caution of the group after three failed tries.

Falcon 1's first flight in 2006 lasted less than a minute, the second flight in 2007 fired for 7.5 minutes, and the third flight last month encountered a staging separation anomaly just shy of three minutes.

The team's analysis of Flight 3 suggested they didn't wait long enough after the first-stage engine was done firing to separate it from the second stage.

The recently beefed-up, first-stage Merlin engine had more kick in it than the previous version of the engine, and after separation still had enough energy to run into the second stage above it, sending it tumbling off course.






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Re: First private space flight [Re: anyone420]
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Why the hell didnt I see this on the news :crankey:

This is EPIC


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Re: First private space flight [Re: anyone420]
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do the private space flights come with a complimentary suicide pill just in case?


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Why the hell didnt I see this on the news :crankey:



john mccrackpot and barack obombya


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Re: First private space flight [Re: anyone420]
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I wonder how long it will take the government to buy the companies that developed their own spaceships. If they start doing things that nasa cant, or find things interresting, will the government step in and take control?


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Kada]
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Exactly 576 days from today.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
I wonder how long it will take the government to buy the companies that developed their own spaceships. If they start doing things that nasa cant, or find things interresting, will the government step in and take control?



Private companies are already much much more efficient that nasa.  It's free market vs command market.. it will always be better.

If the government gets more involved, it will be bad.  Just like any other area of life :wink:


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Re: First private space flight [Re: blewmeanie]
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Im not joking. If they start out doing nasa, they will get wtfpwnd by the governemnt. New laws are going to start flying to control what they can and cant do i bet.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Kada]
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If they outdo NASA, the government will hire them to do their work.

I think this is unlikely however, since their primary goal is (likely to be) motivation, not scientific research.

And while I don't know their budgets, I would think NASA has much more resources.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: First private space flight [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
If they outdo NASA, the government will hire them to do their work.

I think this is unlikely however, since their primary goal is (likely to be) motivation, not scientific research.

And while I don't know their budgets, I would think NASA has much more resources.



They already outdo nasa!  And the gov already fucks them!  And they still preform better.  And nasa has a fuckload more resources, because they can just steal it when they need to.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: anyone420]
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In what aspect do private companies outdo NASA?

NASA has to be government funded because (like a lot of other areas of science) many of their discoveries aren't profitable, rather, scientifically interesting.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: First private space flight [Re: badchad]
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They clearly are profitable, because it just happened. 

I was watching a documentary about this stuff on the history channel, and it highlighted all the ways the private companies were more efficient.  A couple examples being.. nasa has hundreds of people working on the project.  Private companies only need a couple dozen.  Private companies keep costs down because it comes out of their pockets, not anonymous tax payers.  They also have more incentive for their project to work.  They have the ability to provide people with a space flight in exchange for money.  (much like a ride on a ferris wheel)

I could look up some exact facts if you wish, but i think its pretty obvious that the free market is always more efficient than government, in anything it does.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: anyone420]
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Let me rephrase, NASA will still be around to undertake projects which may not be immediately profitable.

I agree, where profit is involved, a private company will usually be more efficient.  A lot of what NASA does though isn't for profit. 

For instance, the mars rovers cost about $900 million, just to explore mars.  How would you make up that initial investment, and how would a mission like that ever be profitable?  No one in the private sector would ever undertake something  like that.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: First private space flight [Re: badchad]
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Unless somehting was found on mars that was worth the effort.


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Kada]
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ever see The Astronaut Farmer?


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Re: First private space flight [Re: shadyy]
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+ = WOOOOOOOOO


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Kada]
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Unless somehting was found on mars that was worth the effort.




The moon has that! The moon has Tritium in its top soil, which in some decades can be minerd and used for fusion energy production. In terms of energy yield, the entire moon is a rich oil field, but of clean energy, and its right at the surface :awesome:


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Asante]
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TO THE MOON!


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: First private space flight [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
TO THE MOON!



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