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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: frisky_]
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frisky_ said:
mickdawg666 said:
For fuck sake, if u wanna put that shit in your own body fine, but considering that when I smoke weed I feel like my brain is being FUCKED, and that God is coming out of the heavens and causing me to go fucking insane, you cannot understand what other living creatures are experiencing on a drug, so it is obviously unethical to put another living creature in that situation.

Finally, my girlfriend is working to become a veteranarian and has seen several cases of animals who suffer from brain damage (some of which she has adopted) due to overexposure to weed. Im definitely no PETA member, but animals do not need to be getting high. You should be able to put whatever you want into your own body I believe, but not into the bodies of other beings.



You know some animals like it?




If there was ever a way to prove beyond a resonable doubt that your animal actually enjoyed getting high... then I suppose it would be ok. But they're animals, they cannot express emotions on the level that humans are capable of. A dog whos biting at smoke in the air is not a dog who wants to get high btw, its just a stupid ass dog that is chasing shit.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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That bit about brain damage from weed is complete bullshit.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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CokedUpHobit64 said:
That bit about brain damage from weed is complete bullshit.



why would you say that? what evidence do you have versus my evidence of witnessing these animals that are half-schizzo and hearing that my GF got them from these assholes who constantly blew marijuana smoke in their faces and cages?


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
For fuck sake, if u wanna put that shit in your own body fine, but considering that when I smoke weed I feel like my brain is being FUCKED, and that God is coming out of the heavens and causing me to go fucking insane, you cannot understand what other living creatures are experiencing on a drug, so it is obviously unethical to put another living creature in that situation.

Finally, my girlfriend is working to become a veteranarian and has seen several cases of animals who suffer from brain damage (some of which she has adopted) due to overexposure to weed. Im definitely no PETA member, but animals do not need to be getting high. You should be able to put whatever you want into your own body I believe, but not into the bodies of other beings.



what kind of problems did the animals have?


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
CokedUpHobit64 said:
That bit about brain damage from weed is complete bullshit.



why would you say that? what evidence do you have versus my evidence of witnessing these animals that are half-schizzo and hearing that my GF got them from these assholes who constantly blew marijuana smoke in their faces and cages?



you nor your girlfriend know what they did to those animals, what they fed them or how they were treated. there could have been a number of reasons.

look at how many straight edge people here have never touched any drugs or even alcohol and are schizo to the 10th degree.

cannabis does not rot your brain.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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have the people who surrendered the animals told her they did this?


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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If they kept them in a cage and blew smoke in there with them, chances are they treated them bad when they were out of the cage too. If you mistreat a dog, its going to act like a "half-schizo". I see these dogs all the time, its not the smoke thats making them that way, its the way they've been treated.

EDIT: They're not brain damaged, they're just traumatized.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
frisky_ said:
mickdawg666 said:
For fuck sake, if u wanna put that shit in your own body fine, but considering that when I smoke weed I feel like my brain is being FUCKED, and that God is coming out of the heavens and causing me to go fucking insane, you cannot understand what other living creatures are experiencing on a drug, so it is obviously unethical to put another living creature in that situation.

Finally, my girlfriend is working to become a veteranarian and has seen several cases of animals who suffer from brain damage (some of which she has adopted) due to overexposure to weed. Im definitely no PETA member, but animals do not need to be getting high. You should be able to put whatever you want into your own body I believe, but not into the bodies of other beings.



You know some animals like it?




If there was ever a way to prove beyond a resonable doubt that your animal actually enjoyed getting high... then I suppose it would be ok. But they're animals, they cannot express emotions on the level that humans are capable of. A dog whos biting at smoke in the air is not a dog who wants to get high btw, its just a stupid ass dog that is chasing shit.



Oh I very much knew that Abby liked it. Just like when I could tell when there was something she didn't like.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: FunGuyFan]
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FunGuyFan said:
have the people who surrendered the animals told her they did this?



yah one of one was an ex-boyfriend of hers; he got rid of it because it (a turkish van cat) started flipping out all the time and biting him


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
Finally, my girlfriend is working to become a veteranarian and has seen several cases of animals who suffer from brain damage (some of which she has adopted) due to overexposure to weed. Im definitely no PETA member, but animals do not need to be getting high. You should be able to put whatever you want into your own body I believe, but not into the bodies of other beings.




Back your shit up with some sources. If one vet in one single vet clinic has seen "several cases" there should be some documentation to back it up.

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
CokedUpHobit64 said:
That bit about brain damage from weed is complete bullshit.



why would you say that? what evidence do you have versus my evidence of witnessing these animals that are half-schizzo and hearing that my GF got them from these assholes who constantly blew marijuana smoke in their faces and cages?



first off you dont know the whole story behind those animals past. Second, marijuana simply doesnt cause brain damage or trauma in any way, its not going to effect animals in such a different way than it effects us. I've known many poeple since I have first started smoking weed that smoke with their animals and their the most mellow creatures youve ever seen. I know of at least three headshops in my area that have pets in them that get smoked out everyday and they are fine.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
But they're animals, they cannot express emotions on the level that humans are capable of.



bullshit.

mickdawg666 said:
A dog whos biting at smoke in the air is not a dog who wants to get high btw, its just a stupid ass dog that is chasing shit.



heres the situation. you have a pipe in your hand, enjoying a bowl. dog comes, sits down right in front of you. you blow your hit away, then go to hit it again. after a while, the dog gets impatient and start growling. not biting at smoke, but growling and showing his teeth to you. blowing a hit of smoke in his face gets him to stop this. how does this mean this dog does not like the smoke?


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  Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM) 

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: RipVanWinkle]
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RipVanWinkle said:
If they kept them in a cage and blew smoke in there with them, chances are they treated them bad when they were out of the cage too. If you mistreat a dog, its going to act like a "half-schizo". I see these dogs all the time, its not the smoke thats making them that way, its the way they've been treated.

EDIT: They're not brain damaged, they're just traumatized.



well these are rodents who belong in a cage were talking about.. You know man, some people just dont react well to certain drugs. I am living fucking proof of that. If I smoke even a half-decent amount of marijuana I will become so paranoid that I am seriously almost bordering on schizophrenic. Beyond our own subjective analysis (while high probably), how can we possibly infer that our pets are actually enjoying the experience of being high? They might be fucking freaking out the way I do when I smoke that shit. That is enough for me (even if I smoke opium, or the drugs I do like) never to put the animals I care for in that kind of situation.


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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I'm thinking most of the damage  you speak of is from environmental abuse and not necessarily pot brain rot. I would never force on my little ones but at the same time I don't think it effects them the same way it does us :imo:


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Innominate]
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Innominate said:
mickdawg666 said:
Finally, my girlfriend is working to become a veteranarian and has seen several cases of animals who suffer from brain damage (some of which she has adopted) due to overexposure to weed. Im definitely no PETA member, but animals do not need to be getting high. You should be able to put whatever you want into your own body I believe, but not into the bodies of other beings.




Back your shit up with some sources. If one vet in one single vet clinic has seen "several cases" there should be some documentation to back it up.



she isn't a vet yet so i'm sure she isn't looking at the whole picture. and yeah i could see some hallucinogens or opiates maybe messing with a dog or cat pretty hard...but a little weed i really doubt that could hurt the dog to much.


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
RipVanWinkle said:
If they kept them in a cage and blew smoke in there with them, chances are they treated them bad when they were out of the cage too.  If you mistreat a dog, its going to act like a "half-schizo".  I see these dogs all the time, its not the smoke thats making them that way, its the way they've been treated.

EDIT: They're not brain damaged, they're just traumatized.



well these are rodents who belong in a cage were talking about.. You know man, some people just dont react well to certain drugs. I am living fucking proof of that. If I smoke even a half-decent amount of marijuana I will become so paranoid that I am seriously almost bordering on schizophrenic. Beyond our own subjective analysis (while high probably), how can we possibly infer that our pets are actually enjoying the experience of being high? They might be fucking freaking out the way I do when I smoke that shit. That is enough for me (even if I smoke opium, or the drugs I do like) never to put the animals I care for in that kind of situation.



what do they have rodents or dogs?? :lol:


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: FunGuyFan]
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Yah you know you guys are rushing to defend yourselves when honestly I could give a shit less if you want to get your animals high or not. This guy wanted my opinion and I gave it. I do not think it is ethical to get another other living creature, human or not, high because I do not have access to that creature's subjective experiences on a substance that is potentially harmful.

When I say potentially harmful I am speaking at least from my own experience with marijuana which produces adverse side effects for me after I inhale it.


**she has a turkish van cat, and a rat that she adopted and knows were repeatedly exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time.


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: wrestler_az]
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wrestler_az said:
mickdawg666 said:
But they're animals, they cannot express emotions on the level that humans are capable of.



bullshit.

mickdawg666 said:
A dog whos biting at smoke in the air is not a dog who wants to get high btw, its just a stupid ass dog that is chasing shit.



heres the situation. you have a pipe in your hand, enjoying a bowl. dog comes, sits down right in front of you. you blow your hit away, then go to hit it again. after a while, the dog gets impatient and start growling. not biting at smoke, but growling and showing his teeth to you. blowing a hit of smoke in his face gets him to stop this. how does this mean this dog does not like the smoke?



Marijuana may not cause brain damage. But people can become addicted, why not a dog? That dog has no idea what marijuana is and what its doing to him or why. All he/she knows is that when you blow the smoke in his face, it changes the way he feels for a while. I guess it is possible for the dog to actually enjoy it. It just all comes down to the owners morals/ethics. I just feel it isnt right to do.

Edited by xaeviax (03/08/08 12:13 AM)

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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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well if dog or cat didn't like it they would walk away


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Re: getting your pet(s) stoned? Animal abuse - yes or no? [Re: xaeviax]
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xaeviax said:
That dog has no idea what marijuana is and what its doing to him or why. All he/she knows is that when you blow the smoke in his face, it changes the way he feels for a while.



how do you know what a dog thinks and feels?


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  Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM) 

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