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Anonymous #1

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    #8034906 - 02/17/08 02:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't tell if I am actually gay, only think I am just gay, or just afraid of vaginas.

I haven't figured it out.
And needed to get it off my chest.


Cya


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8034926 - 02/17/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Why do Vaginas scare you?

I admit they do look strange, but they ain't gonna hurt you or anything.


Edited by appleorange (02/17/08 02:36 PM)


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8034930 - 02/17/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

uh... watch some girl on girl porn.

if ur dick gets hard, ur not gay.

watch dude on dude, if u get hard, ur probably gay.

if u get hard watching both, ur bi-curious. like butters.


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Re: Gay [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8035121 - 02/17/08 03:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm in a human sexuality class in college, and in the class they taught us the best way to figure out your orientation is to think about what your true fantasies are. Look at what yours are and maybe it will help you a little bit. I wouldn't base your orientation on what anybody tells you what it is.


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Re: Gay [Re: ilus]
    #8036328 - 02/18/08 12:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

do you find attraction for girls on a physical level, say by looking at a girl whos cute and wearing a sexy uniform?

Do you ever look at guys and feel the same attraction?

Have you tried to explore your sexuality, maybe by being safe with say some male on male porn, or sexual fantasies?
See how they work for you, or dont work for you. Sometimes vaginas are a little difficult for me to get off to. I am very comfortable with the cock too, so this is why 95% of my porn/fantasies involves blowjobs, and often with another guy.

Sucks that we still live in a society where it is hard to be open about this kind of shit in person. My best advise for you is drop any guilt you may feel for doing some experimental shit, this is your life and you need to do what makes you happy man; be happy with your choices and who you are. Good luck in whatever side you choose eh.


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8036422 - 02/18/08 01:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's my personal philosophy that gay/straight is scaled (such as 1-10) rather than black/white. A lot of people are just too caught up in societal norm to consider otherwise. In any case, do what you want and feel and fuck everyone else - its most likely that no one will really even care if it turns out that you are, in fact, gay.


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Re: Gay [Re: ManianFH]
    #8036432 - 02/18/08 01:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This is what you need to do. Go find a guy and hook up with him. Try it. Dont be scared of being gay.
If you like it, good your "gay". But if you find that it doesnt really ring your bells, then maybe a girl and a guy at the same time would do it.

Dude there is no such thing as "GAY", this is just an idea that has been created to put you in a specific category. It comes down to what do you "want"? Find that out, maybe sometimes you want to fuck a guy in the ass, or maybe you want a guy to take care of. Or maybe you dont like guys at that moment, girls are also available you know! Girls are also good for many reasons. Spiritual reasons, and biological reasons.


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Re: Gay [Re: p4kSouL]
    #8037435 - 02/18/08 11:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It almost seems that I like guys and girls, but in different ways. I have more of a physical attraction to guys (yet i find some girls extrememly attractive, but most are "eh, whatever") and I find emotional attractions to both. Im very shy in general and I find a large chunk of girls annoying in relationship situations (too clingy, bossy, controlling) but I am sure there are plenty of girls that aren't like that.... but If I find that girl, the vagina comes into play. Im not a fan and don't think I could do my job as a man to please her.


*Sigh

I know I will figure it out oneday, I just wish I knew now.

and to Pilze.... I get hard watching gay porn way over straight porn, but I am also not sure how I feel about having a boyfriend. I think I just need to get more used to the idea.

Thanks for your replies though people - Sorry for being a confused mess


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8037805 - 02/18/08 12:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Go on Craigslist..there are plenty of gay dudes on there who will suck your cock at the drop of a hat. I posted in the straight section once and got like 10 replies from dudes saying they would suck my cock.


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Re: Gay [Re: Tangerines]
    #8037841 - 02/18/08 12:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol, yea. i don't want to derail this topic, but I posted an ad just looking for a roommate on craigslist and I got sexual offers from gay men.


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Re: Gay [Re: appleorange]
    #8037905 - 02/18/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you are afraid of vaginas, you're probably gay.

I had a gay roommate for about a year, and he was deathly afraid of them. He would often tell me that they reminded him of some kind of alien organ implanted onto a person.

Gay guys really hate pussies. But they love the tittays.

Go figure.


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Re: Gay [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8038074 - 02/18/08 01:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Haha Maybe I am just gay. Tits are nice. Vaginas are gross. Im not scared of them, they are just unappealing.

And about craigslist, I may be gay but that doesn't mean I don't have morals. Some of those craiglisters creep me out. Im sure there are nice guys though... but I don't want to resort to that.


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8041604 - 02/19/08 04:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
I can't tell if I am actually gay, only think I am just gay, or just afraid of vaginas.




Being afraid of vaginas is perfectly normal. They're nasty looking internal organs. Just don't look at 'em.


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Re: Gay [Re: JTB22]
    #8042921 - 02/19/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Or you can except that you're attracted to good looking PEOPLE. Bi-sexuality is quite common, unless you talk to any number of homophobes.


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8047936 - 02/20/08 03:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Haha Maybe I am just gay. Tits are nice. Vaginas are gross. Im not scared of them, they are just unappealing.

And about craigslist, I may be gay but that doesn't mean I don't have morals. Some of those craiglisters creep me out. Im sure there are nice guys though... but I don't want to resort to that.




totally dude..ill bet 90% of those guys on craigslist are recycled material and are full of wierd stds. stay away from that shit. If you ever do hook up with a guy try and get a relationship first so you dont end up hooking up with a walking std.

Actually that goes for gay or straight, watch out for stds... shit...


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Re: Gay [Re: ManianFH]
    #8048026 - 02/20/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Haha Maybe I am just gay.  Tits are nice. Vaginas are gross. Im not scared of them, they are just unappealing.

And about craigslist, I may be gay but that doesn't mean I don't have morals.  Some of those craiglisters creep me out.  Im sure there are nice guys though... but I don't want to resort to that.




totally dude..ill bet 90% of those guys on craigslist are recycled material and are full of wierd stds. stay away from that shit. If you ever do hook up with a guy try and get a relationship first so you dont end up hooking up with a walking std.

Actually that goes for gay or straight, watch out for stds... shit...





:lol:  do tell...


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Re: Gay [Re: ilus]
    #8048902 - 02/20/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I dont see why you are confused.

You seem to know what you want.

A person who is caring, and who you can relate to emotionally.

Have you ever questioned if the question; Am i gay or straight is even logical?

Why not both. Why not neither.

Ask yourself this; would i have sex with a person who had racist beliefs, instilled fear in others, had no sense of empathy?

I think in all honesty, the question are you gay or straight is ultimatly way to limiting and inconsistent with the nature of desire.

Some advice is do not use porno to guide your decision about who you have sex with.

From personal experience this is really confusing and misleading, because it can make sex out to be purely bodily, when in fact, if you answered no, to the question about the person who hates alot of people, then it has its roots in the mental and vibrational.

The light is near.

:heart:


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And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

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Re: Gay [Re: ilus]
    #8051509 - 02/21/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Haha Maybe I am just gay.  Tits are nice. Vaginas are gross. Im not scared of them, they are just unappealing.

And about craigslist, I may be gay but that doesn't mean I don't have morals.  Some of those craiglisters creep me out.  Im sure there are nice guys though... but I don't want to resort to that.




totally dude..ill bet 90% of those guys on craigslist are recycled material and are full of wierd stds. stay away from that shit. If you ever do hook up with a guy try and get a relationship first so you dont end up hooking up with a walking std.

Actually that goes for gay or straight, watch out for stds... shit...





:lol:  do tell...




i got the chlamydia from this girl once. actually im not sure which girl it was, but im pretty sure it was the 16 y/o


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Re: Gay [Re: ManianFH]
    #8057024 - 02/22/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Jose, thats some good advice. I think I am afraid of admitting to myself about me being gay... you know, the whole human self-delusion bit.

I blame it on society though. As cliche as that sounds.... if more people didn't care so much about hating gays, then I wouldn't care so much about being gay. Ehh.....


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Re: Gay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8059590 - 02/23/08 08:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"I think I am afraid of admitting to myself about me being gay... "

By this do you mean afraid of admitting that you enjoy thinking sexually about certain shapes and smells?

If this is true i dont think you have to admit to it...it simply is not true and will mislead your life if you let yourself be guided by  "Im gay, so im going to find a person with a male body to have sex with" Which i doubt you feel like doing inside.

If my doubts are correct, fuck admiting to it, drop it and live your life like all this was a grand old nonesense.

This is what i went through. Constantly, constantly and i still do out of habit, trying to answere questions of "Am i gay or straight"? Ofcourse, it was not until i questioned the question itself that i realized there was nothing to think about because any decision coming from a question that is based in a irrational assumptions is not worth answering, just like grabbing at the air, is not worth doing, if you want say "Oxygen".

This question came from a time where people objectified women and made sex out to be purely sinful and taboo. This taboo led to little discussion about sex and little insight into the nature of our desires, leaving most conversation and social development of it to come from drunk and horny men, in western bars, who spoke of women as mere objects, thus objectifying sex socially and making for the question "Am i gay or straight?".

I think this is true because the question am i gay or straight means, do i have sex with males or females, which in turn is based on objectifying sexual orientation.

I trully do not believe in objectifying people, much less think of what type of object i like to have sex with, for the simple fact that sex is a mutual exchange of love, joy and life, between to subjects, where excitement is found in the excitement of another, equal to me.

Questions and their answeres guide our lives, and i think it would be best to stop trying to guide your life and work through a question that to me resembles the story about the guy who lost something in the back yard of his home, only for it to be in the heart of his vibrational emotion.

:heart:


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And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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