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Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree?
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i was thinking of something along the lines of accounting or some type of human resources. some type of office setting working with paperwork and record keeping.

im 23 years old and i only took the classes that i needed to graduate high school with an extra year of math. so i was thinking an associates degree would be the way to go. but could i go back to school and get a bachelors degree with two more years or would it be a full 4 more on top of my associates degree?

what would the difference be in pay, job, and anything else?


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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They say there is a big difference in pay over your lifetime.  I got my associates degree in bus admin and accounting.  then went on to a large public university and completed it in 2 years - bus major.  all my credits transferred fine.  That was a big concern though.  So was financing it.  but i got lucky and scored a mega scholarship.  :laugh:


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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Almost no one goes for associates anymore because nearly everyone and their momma goes for their B.S./B.A.

Back in the day when college was more of a rarity, an associates would have been fine.

Depending on what math classes you took, they may be able to cut down on the time you need to get your B.A. in accounting.

I would think that a B.A. would be needed to do anything lucrative in the accounting field (i.e. more than just filing papers).


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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An associates degree is the next rung down on the degree scale from a bachelors degree.

It goes...

Doctorate - Such as a Doctor of Philosophy, or Ph.D
Masters - Master of Science, or Arts, or others. M.S., or M.A., or M.F.A.
Bachelors - Bachelor of Science, in my case, and a B.S.
Associates - Generally of Arts, but I suppose they give them out in science. A.A.

In addition, Associates degrees are generally given out from technical or community colleges. I suppose it is in some way possible to get an associates degree from a 4-year university, but I dont know of any such program at my school.

I'm not sure how much use an associates degree would be to get a job, but I can't imagine an employer would put a lot of weight behind one. I would think a year of work experience in a field would outweigh an associates degree...


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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so your the person i need to be talking to.

how old are you? sorry, i like to compare so that i know how far behind i am, it motivates me. what kind of job can you get with a business major? did you get your associates at a community college?


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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is it a lot harder to get a bachelors degree?


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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4 years @ 16 credits per semester.


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
4 years @ 16 credits per semester.


what does that mean? what's an associates require each year?


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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Each class is worth a certain number of credits. Generally, 1.00 credit equals one hour of class time per week. Most classes will be 3 or 4 credits, and meet that many hours each week.

A full-time student at a normal university is defined as carrying 12 credits. But if you only took 12 credits a semester, 3 or 4 classes, then it would probably take you 4.5 or 5 years to graduate.

I have no idea how many credits they are requiring for an associates degree. I'm sure you could finish it in 2 years though, likely less.


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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ya my degree plan is 129 hours.. includes internship.

associates degrees are wholly pointless in my opinion... no offense to anyone who has one, but i guess if you want to be a manager instead of an 'associate' then go for it :P

they're cheap and easy and really dont mean much nowadays.

i'm going for my bachelors of science..

masters is not necessary to get a good job in my field, but in other fields (such as business) it is usually nearly required for a lot of jobs. gives you and extra edge and more education means that you are better suited for your job.

if you can afford it and have four years to dedicate to a university, go to one. pick something you're interested in and major in it.

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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
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Many degrees are very hard to get in 4 years though and will probably take 5 years to get. Unless of course you have a very hefty course load and get good grades on everything.

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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: Tangerines]
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i always found high school to be pretty easy. i just got lazy, smoked weed, hung out with friends, had a girlfriend, and didn't try to hard to get A's and B's. i did get them though but not enough to give myself a good GPA. i took half days my junior and senior year.

if im 23 now, turning 24 in may, 5 years means that ill be 29...isn't that kindof old to be graduating college? that's why i was thinking of just going for the associates.


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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LayYouIn said:
if im 23 now, turning 24 in may, 5 years means that ill be 29...isn't that kindof old to be graduating college?

Hope not... I get my B.S. 1 month after turning 29.

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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
LayYouIn said:
if im 23 now, turning 24 in may, 5 years means that ill be 29...isn't that kindof old to be graduating college?

Hope not... I get my B.S. 1 month after turning 29.


so how old were you when you first started going to college? do you feel smarter?

a guy i work with has his bachelors and he seems pretty smart. he graduated high school the same year as me too. on top of that, he's been out of college for a couple of years. but the bad thing is that he can only find a seasonal job for what he went to college for. but i bet when he finds himself a position, he'll be in the upper class range or something along those lines.


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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so how old were you when you first started going to college? I took classes sporadically at the community college from about 19-23. When I turned 24 I got serious and attended the University full time.

do you feel smarter? Yes. Im in a pretty intense program though (not to brag). Still many of my classmates arnt very sharp.

You get out of college what you put in. Many people go, barely pass, get a degree and then whine when opportunities dont fall in their lap. College is useful if you put massive time and effort into it. The degree itself isnt as marketable as skills you learn while getting that degree. If you get a degree but dont have tangible skills, it wont be terrible useful.

For example, my field is a scientific one... so employers are looking for more than a degree. You need to be able to communicate well (speaking and writing), you need to know how to program and operate mathematical software, and just think critically and mathematically in general. These are skills that are very important, but you dont generally have a class on them.

So if you are going to do business, you will have your own set of skills to master. Dont just go and pass classes, learn real usable skills (whatever those may be).

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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: DieCommie]
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should i just start getting all of the classes i need to get into a university(what that's call?  i can hardly say it :rolleyes: i know it's pre....) and then during that time decide what i want to do?  because im not sure what i want to do but im pretty sure i want to go to college and do something with my life.


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Re: Difference between an associates degree and a bachelors degree? [Re: LayYouIn]
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Pretty much yea, there is really only one path you should take. Enroll at your local Community College (or Junior College).

Its way cheaper, and more conducive to people in your (and my) situation. Theoretically you can take your first two years worth of classes there. Usually people end up taking more than two years. ( they have to take prerequisites that dont count, or change their major)

Start out with at half time even (that 2 classes at 3 credits each = 6 credit total). Take a math or english (each are required) and any other class at all that looks fun.

Thats the best thing you can do to try your hand at college without getting in deeper than you want and losing alot of money.

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