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OfflineNITRIC
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finding marijuana via airplanes
    #779484 - 07/27/02 04:07 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i was wondering what kind of equipment is used when the "man" looks for marijuana?via airplanes? or how can they tell if someone is cultivating it ? indoors?


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: NITRIC]
    #779505 - 07/27/02 04:56 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

They just fly around with binoculars looking for 'signs of cultivation' (i.e. weeded patches, plants arranged in a
orderly fashion, etc) in an odd area. It's not hard to spot a 'garden' in the wild from the air. If you can plant
and tend to plants without disturbing the 'natural' look to the area, it will be difficult to spot from the air.
What concerns me, is that the b*****ds are flying around here with infrared thermal imaging equipment looking for
unusual 'heat' sources, like barns and sheds. You can stop the light from escaping, but you can't keep the
'heat' from the grow lights from 'lighting' your barn up like a beacon!!! Ever watch COPS or Real Stories of the
Highway patrol when they use the helicopter and 'FLIR' (forward looking infrared) to track people in the dark?
Same equipment, different use!


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: pseudosage]
    #779518 - 07/27/02 05:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

so if that is the case then how can a person git by the infra red camera?


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: NITRIC]
    #779519 - 07/27/02 05:20 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Heat sheilds, heat displacement, airconditioning.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: NITRIC]
    #779536 - 07/27/02 05:45 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

This board doesn't give you the 'thread' when you reply, and I can't remember the other reply, who answered
with the solutions. Too much bother and expense. We have a National Guard base up the road and they
search for 'pot farms' as training missions, but then again, I really don't know how much effort they devote to
it. Let's hope the Nevada thing happens. That could be the 'hole' that causes the whole dam to fall apart.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: pseudosage]
    #779937 - 07/27/02 11:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I heard that they cant use that to bust you now, they have to have some other legit reason- I'd just turn my lights off whenever i hear choppers- i dont think a few sec's will hurt them


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: KaliedoscopEyes]
    #780301 - 07/27/02 02:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Policing routinely 'scan' inner-city apartment blocks in the UK for signs of growing. That always amused me! Seems a little like victimization; "you live in a low rent project, therefore you're likely to grow weed, therefore we'll spy on you'.

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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: pseudosage]
    #780599 - 07/27/02 05:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

>What concerns me, is that the b*****ds are flying around here with infrared thermal imaging equipment looking for
unusual 'heat' sources, like barns and sheds.

Not anymore. The courts said that was a no no, it's invasion of privacy... they have to have a search warrant to do that now.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: NITRIC]
    #780614 - 07/27/02 05:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

titanium mesh its a type of metal that you can't use infer red heat sensing things on. but they only do that in certain states. i think in arizona it would be to hot throw everything off but who knows i'm just glad there not allowed to do it without a warrant.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: Gumby]
    #780768 - 07/27/02 07:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I did a quick search and found this: http://marijuana.com/article.php?sid=1494 It looks as though they need a warrant to
use thermal imaging equipment for proper evidence. Anyway, our local paper neglects such pertinent info, and had an article
which leads one to believe they're using thermal imaging and info from utility companies on a regular basis. Still, the powers
that be, can still use it for preliminary investigations, sort of like the illegal phone tap. Can't use it in court, but....! Oh the
wonders of modern technology.

I still believe the answer to the original question is not to have a plot that stands out from the surrounding area. A few
growing semi-naturally, won't stand out like a well tended garden in the middle of field.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: NITRIC]
    #4898624 - 11/05/05 11:43 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I assume you're guerrilla growing?

That comes with it's risks I'm afraid.

If growing on your own property the police are legally required to be able to see it and identify it with the naked eye (no optics whatsoever) from a minimum FAA altitude. If they use binoculars or special imaging then they just conducted an illegal search and essentially waved a wand over your evidence making it inadmissable.

However out in the wild is government land so they can of course give themselves permission to examine it!  :tongue:

If the plants aren't being grown under lights in an enclosure they're actually far less likely to lead back to anyone. A few lone marijuana plants growing wild out in the wilderness, in no sensible pattern (IE not close to each other), is less cause for investigation. They may destroy the plants, but they're less likely to spend the resources on attempting a sting operation. The problem with that being there's lots of hiking around to do in order to take care of them.

It's all up to the local police whether they want to try and catch someone doing it though. I'd say it's russian roulette.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: Konnrade]
    #4899394 - 11/06/05 04:00 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

dont think the law will stop them from spying though.
it just means they need an excuse to indicate how they could have seen it with the naked eye, wich they only look for AFTER spotting you with the binoculars and ir equiptment...


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4899485 - 11/06/05 04:43 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, it just gives them a damn good spot to watch until they find evidence they can use in an apparently legal manner.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4899539 - 11/06/05 05:11 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Well some cops are real bastards in that area but in the LA suburbs we've had some damn good police officers that tend to be very good about obeying the law as it pertains to them restraining themselves.

They even went so far as to have people flown into the city, who were skilled in spotting marijuana plants with the naked eye, so as not to violate the law. They're not lazy fuckers here no doubt. A little too enthusiastic maybe, but respectful of their limits.

An FYI though, it's not unheard of to ask for those specialists, and they certainly can spot a marijuana plant from 5,000 feet with the naked eye. and from 5,000 feet with unasisted vision is considered plain sight and therefore all they need is enough willpower to send a plane looking and they have evidence that is perfectly admissible.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: NITRIC]
    #4899543 - 11/06/05 05:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

its not hard to create a coincidence where a
traffic chopper flies over your pad..


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: Gumby]
    #4900173 - 11/06/05 01:07 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Gumby said:
>What concerns me, is that the b*****ds are flying around here with infrared thermal imaging equipment looking for
unusual 'heat' sources, like barns and sheds.

Not anymore. The courts said that was a no no, it's invasion of privacy... they have to have a search warrant to do that now.




don't kid yourself.

they need a warrant for it to be admissable in court, but
there's nothing stopping the guys up in the ghetto bird
from 'browsing' around.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: afoaf]
    #4900311 - 11/06/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Marijuana plants give off a unique reading on thermal images. I doubt the plane could pick out a few ganja plants in a hay field but theyll spot a field of weed without a doubt. They can easily spot large growrooms too.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4903514 - 11/07/05 08:31 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I believe they spot the heat from the hps lamps used to do indoor grows with the thermal imaging.


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Re: finding marijuana via airplanes [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4904938 - 11/07/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yeh, I'd have to say that plants dont give off much of a heat signature.

They produce some waste heat, but it's piss small compared to electrical equipment. Still very small compared to animals, and remains small even when compared to mycelium.


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