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 grafting marijuana on hemp... 
#1941758 - 09/22/03 05:24 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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has anyoen tried this or know if its possible. i was wonderign because hemp is legal and much faster growing then most marijuana. get bigger buds faster? i dunno someone clear this up
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#1941765 - 09/22/03 05:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmmm..I've never heard of, or read anything like that before..But i have a feeling it wouldnt work to well..
both plants would defiantly have to be well established though
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 Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: funkymonk]
#1942309 - 09/22/03 08:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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well jsut rememberign how huge they are. and it is the actual bud that produces the thc. anyway just a thought..
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#1942636 - 09/22/03 09:39 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see how this circumvent's the laws. I've heard conflicting stories about a transfer of effects into hemp or whatever, but in theory the alkaloids are produced as endodgenous to the cell and remain its vacuole so the only things that are trasnfered are waters, sugars, and hormones.
So i don't see how it circumvents the laws cause you have to have the actual marijuana plant to graft onto it, and therefore would be considered posessing marijuan acause you posess a member of the species grafted or not...
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: neuro]
#1942966 - 09/22/03 11:20 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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i know. but in a huge feild. i dunno its the thc that is semi illegal. hehe. anyway thanks for the response. i wonder if anyones tried?
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#1943012 - 09/22/03 11:37 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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there were more subjects about this in the past, and I though I read that it was possible.
do a search...
why don't you just place a MJ plant somewhere in a field?
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: stefan]
#1943580 - 09/23/03 06:08 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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"marijuana" and "hemp" are both Cannabis... so wtf?
the hops (Humulus sp.) & pot (Cannabis sp.) grafting thing may work, but why bother?
the "actives" in pot are not alkaloids...
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: gnrm23]
#1943620 - 09/23/03 07:19 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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gnrm23 , good point as Cannabis and hops are not "both Cannabis". They belong to the same plant family Cannabinaceae.
To graft the two (and it would have to be for niche reason) is called an inter-genera graft. It requires approach grafting and from what I have read, only 40% success rate.
Given one would be grafting a Cannabis scion of known female gender to a hops root stock, then the scion is a clone. Thus, to place it into an environment where it could take advantage of a large root zone (courtesy of the hops) and not suffer square inverse, then you'd run into trouble of the scion autoflowering, despite a lengthening photoperiod of Spring.
I don't see it worth it, other than of academic interest. Grow hops for beer brewing (it grows very easily  ) and grow Cannabis for home grown. 
Finally, you will not get a hops plant as a scion on a cannabis rootstock to become smoke grade. The phloem and xylem will only move water and nutrients.
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#1943633 - 09/23/03 07:34 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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To answer the inaugural question, why would you bother grafting a psychoactive strain of Cannabis to a fiber making Cannabis strain (simply called hemp)?
It would stick out like dogs balls once it goes into flowering (so it would get busted or rogued) and if you were to plant it out into a field of hemp, you'd ruin it with no end of seeds in the bud. Much of the hemp grown is hermie. It self seeds, and is sought to do so for hemp seed crop return aka birdseed, oil, stockfeed ect.
The only possible reason to do so would be you've observed that the hemps strains have greater vigour and your conclusion is due to a larger root stock, therefore justifying in your mind a grafting.
Now if that were the case, then seek psychoactive strains that have the vigour (there's shit loads around) and bypass this nonsense at the jump.
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#1943683 - 09/23/03 08:15 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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>>i know. but in a huge feild. i dunno its the thc that is semi illegal.
It's not the THC only, it's the plant itself, the plant (marijuana) themselves are also illegal.
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: neuro]
#1943957 - 09/23/03 10:44 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, remember, folks... the orginal poster is from canadia, & them canucks have silly notions of law
i mean, like, maybe potheads shouldn't be locked up for 3 to 5, or maybe 5 to 10, (or 10 will get you 20) years, just to teach their anti-authoritarian asses a thing or two about responsibilty, productivity, loyalty, patriotism, and voting a straight republican ticket...
silly canadians, don't you know that amerika has your best interst at heart (ya, just you wait until dubya and his crew annex toronto or ottowa or saskatoon or vannkoover, just to protect you from yourselves...)
or something...
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: gnrm23]
#1945647 - 09/23/03 06:46 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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oo bad joke I heard it but it was alabama.... anyway my main idea was just to see if it would grow faster. just for interest. thanks neuro and everyone for the info
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#5597434 - 05/06/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DO IT!
Obviously, any attempt at grafting marijuana, in general, is for the sake of personal novelty in gardening practices.
Obviously, once again, whoever planned on doing this would also have a crop of sinsemilla concurrently while endeavoring on this project, as it is not a "for sure" that high-quality buds will be produced.
If you DID have success, though, and had vigorous success, you could end up with a MASSIVE plant by the end of the year, and considering most scions grafted onto rootstocks maintain their genetics pertinent to flowering and reproductive processes (A Pink Pearl scion --Apple tree-- grafted onto X rootstock is going to produce Pink Pearl fruits) you might just get some smokable material at the end...
That said, grafting any fast-growing annual plant is kinda silly.
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: the man]
#5598094 - 05/06/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes it's been done. you can graft to hemp and to hops. The part of the plant that is grafted grows exactly like it did on the original plant. In other words worthless hemp branches grafted to a Northern lights are still worthless. Northern Lights grafted to hemp will be normal Northern Lights. The only reason to do it would be for camo reasons. (even then there are better ways)
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: Magash]
#5599029 - 05/06/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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prolly a stupid question, but what if u graft it to a perennial plant?
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Re: grafting marijuana on hemp... [Re: Vertigo6911]
#5600145 - 05/07/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yay for three year old threads.
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