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Re: Vicodin [Re: Tangerines]
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Better than parachuting 12 pills worth of APAP. Percs got APAP in them too, you know. Vikes aren't worth snorting, though. Unless you do a cold water extraction, they aren't worth a damn thing in general, honestly.

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Angered Roach]
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I stick to oxy.

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Tangerines]
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Good choice. I can never find oxys around here. Best pills that usually pop up are Xanaxs, Diazepam, and Percocets.

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Angered Roach]
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xannax are FUN.  If you just straight want to black out a night eat some xanny and some brews. :thumbup:

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Tangerines]
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1 football (1mg xanax) + 80 line mixed together = My preferred high, you'll never loop so hard. Well unless your bangin shit.


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"Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living."

General Omar N. Bradley

Edited by 2FiNiTe (12/01/07 09:38 PM)

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Tangerines]
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Tangerines said:
Only bitches feel nauseous. Im kidding, but seriously I have never felt sick ono any opiates. 80 in a night no prob. snort H no prob. Maybe I am just THE man.


Yeah, i'll be smacking you around like a bitch, when I take the high road and you take the low.(kidding)

I don't like feeling sleepy. I want to be wide awake and feel like jumping into the octagon and go 90 30 minute rounds - or under the sheets with Jessica, Jennifer, Tina, Monica, etc etc etc.

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Re: Vicodin [Re: urtrippin]
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I'm getting 24 vics tomorrow and I'm thinking about doin' the cold water extraction. would this be a waste of pills? the 24 would last me a good week. how long would the extraction last?


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You look down at me and you see a fool
You look up at me and you see a god
You look straight at me and you see yourself

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Re: Vicodin [Re: emilbus]
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Just eat them man, I've tried that cold water extraction. It works but I mean your gonna lost like 10mg's. I'd just eat them for sure.


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"Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living."

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Re: Vicodin [Re: 2FiNiTe]
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how does the high compare? what do you mean, "i will lose 10mgs"? the ones im getting are 500mgs, 349 watson.


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You look up at me and you see a god
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Re: Vicodin [Re: emilbus]
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349 watsons contain 5mg's of Hydrocodone 500mg's of Acetaminophen (asprin), when you do a cold water extraction your going to lose 10mg's of your hydrocodone, so that'd be the same as throwing one of your pills away.

Hydrocodone is the active painkiller in the pill if you didn't know that already.

http://www.pharmer.org/node/8694

Edited by 2FiNiTe (12/01/07 10:06 PM)

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Re: Vicodin [Re: 2FiNiTe]
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yeah, i knew all this you just confused me for a sec. so with 24 pills i will have a total of 120mg's of hydrocodone. your saying that if i extract i will lose 10mg's? i think 110mg's of pure hydrocodone would be worth it. besides, 12000Mg's of Acetaminophen couldn't be good for you.


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You look up at me and you see a god
You look straight at me and you see yourself

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Re: Vicodin [Re: urtrippin]
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I looked. they are M357

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Re: Vicodin [Re: urtrippin]
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the extraction is unnecessary just eat them.. the tylenol won't hurt you unless you take more than 3 or 4 grams in a day

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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Caribou_Lou said:
the extraction is unnecessary just eat them.. the tylenol won't hurt you unless you take more than 3 or 4 grams in a day


wrong

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Re: Vicodin [Re: johnm214]
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Got 5 perc 15's... mmmm yep

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Re: Vicodin [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
Caribou_Lou said:
the extraction is unnecessary just eat them.. the tylenol won't hurt you unless you take more than 3 or 4 grams in a day


wrong


Uhh, not really. Tylenol won't harm your liver unless you take more than 3,000-4,000 mg within 24 hours.

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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Caribou_Lou said:
johnm214 said:
Caribou_Lou said:
the extraction is unnecessary just eat them.. the tylenol won't hurt you unless you take more than 3 or 4 grams in a day


wrong


Uhh, not really. Tylenol won't harm your liver unless you take more than 3,000-4,000 mg within 24 hours.


you should publish your findings.

Even as recomended the maximum dose is a gram for adults every dosing. Even the figure you suggest, and even presuming it was divided evenly througout the day.
leads to liver damage. This study used doses of 500mg at a time for a daily dose of 4g and got toxic effects in about 40% of healthy volunteers.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/296/1/87
minotransferase Elevations in Healthy Adults Receiving 4 Grams of Acetaminophen Daily
JAMA. 2006;296:87-93.


Now you suggest its okay to take a toxic daily dose (when taken for extended periods) in one sitting, despite your body not having the enzyme availability ot meetabolise that dose in a whole day?

Provide a source if you expect people to take you seriously.

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Re: Vicodin [Re: johnm214]
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Yeah well obviously if you take that much everyday it's going to cause damage. There's a difference between taking 4 grams daily, and taking 4 grams one day. And who the fuck is going to take 40 mg of vicodin everyday?

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Re: Vicodin [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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Caribou_Lou said:
And who the fuck is going to take 40 mg of vicodin everyday?



i did that every day last week:shrug:


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Re: Vicodin [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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Caribou_Lou said:
Yeah well obviously if you take that much everyday it's going to cause damage. There's a difference between taking 4 grams daily, and taking 4 grams one day. And who the fuck is going to take 40 mg of vicodin everyday?


1. How is that obvious? Show some source or something that there is a refractory period or something that would suggest the weekly dosing is important.

2. You still haven't addressed the point that taking 4 grams vs 500mg q3 is going to put a different load on the enzymes.

3. The dosing conventions for tylenol are largely anectdotal or etrapolations. There's little hard evidence about what causes liver damage and what doesn't.

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