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Can cannabutter be cooked too long?
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I'm thinking of tossing some hash in the slow cooker with the necessary ingredients over night.

Could this be overkill?

Whoa, thought I was in the ODD section. Sorry.


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Edited by PyroBurns (11/16/07 08:21 PM)

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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: PyroBurns]
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Long as it doesn't go above the vaporization point (390F), and is above 150F (around 200F or 212F to be safe) it shouldn't matter


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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Well I'm FINALLY going to find out if that hash was legit or not, in a healthy fashion even. How quaint.


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: PyroBurns]
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If it's a small amount, u may just be better off smoking.  We've found that with half eighths or eighths of nug, it's pretty tough to get decent cannabutter.  Why, who knows.  Maybe someone else with more cannabutter exp. can try.  It just seems waaay easier with more quantity rather than tryin to do low quantity.  It's gotta be possible.  My theory is that with very little quantity of nug, the thc molecules need more TIME to float around and contact the butter.  Whereas large amounts have so much damn THC floatin around that you're bound to succeed.

So, maybe your all-nighter is actually a benefit, in that it gives more time for the reactions to occur with the butter.  Just make sure it's hot enough, and that your water doesn't boil away while ya sleep :wink:


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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That's what I'm thinking the more that I think about it.

But the more I think, the more it seems like I got bunk hash. I mean there's .4 oz of the stuff and it wasn't very expensive. And I live in a bad area.

But then again, it DID get me high... I think... AGGH I'm too impatient. It hasn't even been 20 minutes and I want to taste it already.


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: PyroBurns]
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if your impatient then just smoke it already. otherwise, Visions is right... don't melt the molecule and it's all good. personally, i've only boiled it for ~30 minutes but physics says you can get away with longer.

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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: debianlinux]
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I was about to say, "How the fuck do you correct yourself in a post when you realized you're posting in the wrong forum?" then I saw that you edited it. Sorry, Im high probably just like everyone else is on the Shroomery.:cool:


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: TrancedShroom]
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not me, you filthy pot head.


i bet you have cum stains on your trousers.


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: usefulidiot13]
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yea


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: debianlinux]
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debianlinux said:
melt


melt would be the wrong word.
vaporize, my friend. vaporize is the right word. because then you lose the molecule to the air, since it becomes gaseous. melting is a solid phase to liquid phase change.

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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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i tried making a small amount today and just eating it on bread because i got my wisdom teeth removed.

i used about 1 gram.


it didnt work :confused:

oven was on 275 :confused:

i must be some sort of tard.


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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somebody should pressure cook some nugs in a canning jar and then inhale after they open the jar :smilingpuppy:

then afterwords you could try smoking the weed and see if anything is left, should be a fun little experment.


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: usefulidiot13]
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dunno. same thing has happened to us. people claim you can use a gram and get high off it, but surely it depends on how good the nug is. small amounts seem to be harder to put to use. every time i've done 1/8 or under it has not worked, why, who knows. try for larger amounts


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Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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use peanut butter on crackers next time, that shit works wonders (search fire crackers)


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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that sucks.

this was pretty good weed.


tomorrow im just making a firecracker. surely if i am careful and eat slowly i can avoid hurting my mouth.


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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molecules actually crack.

when molecules break from high temperature it is because their constituent electrons vibrate to the point that they release from their nucleic bond. another term, in electronics, is avalanche breakdown.

in this case THC is not being vaporized. if it were you could get stoned by inhaling the vapor coming off the pot of boiling material; which is happening anyway due to inconsistent temperatures about the entirety of the heated mass. as it is tho, the molecule is actually breaking down into simpler molecules, i.e. cracking. the resulting compounds bond with oxygen in the water, aka oxidization... or they ionize.

you are correct that melting is not absolutely the correct terminology. generally speaking tho, when something loses inherit properties to heat it has melted.

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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: debianlinux]
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my previous post just and the last just gave me an idea, you could turn a stainless steel pressure cooking into a huge vaporizer :yesnod::lol:


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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: debianlinux]
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debianlinux said:
in this case THC is not being vaporized. if it were you could get stoned by inhaling the vapor coming off the pot of boiling material; which is happening anyway due to inconsistent temperatures about the entirety of the heated mass. as it is tho, the molecule is actually breaking down into simpler molecules, i.e. cracking. the resulting compounds bond with oxygen in the water, aka oxidization... or they ionize.


I think you misunderstood what I was sayin.

I was warning against getting the liquid too hot - if it reaches 390F, THC vaporizes, turns into a vapor, and you lose it out of the liquid, into the air. This is what you do not want to happen, and generally this is what does not happen if butter techniques are done correctly.

If vaporization of THC lead to THC breaking down into different chemical substituents, then vaporizers wouldn't work. THC vaporizes at 390F into a vapor state, it doesn't crack or anything.

But what does happen when at temps of 150F-under 390F, is that the carboxylate group (the COOH group on THC), will come off, and thus, THC is decarboxylated, allowing it to have a chemical bonding site to butter, so it can hitch a rollercoaster ride with the butter into your blood. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Sound right?

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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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nice idea. just attach a hose to a pressure regulator valve and voila... maybe. i'll stick to my tried and proven glass bowl till you work out the complications of that particular tek.

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Re: Can cannabutter be cooked too long? [Re: VisionsToReality]
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good luck getting h2o to 390F. otherwise, you are sounding spot on to my alcohol pickled brain.

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