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OfflineTheDnB_One
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4 hr bleach dunk
    #747470 - 07/15/02 07:41 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

did jorge kill his cake? he followed it with a 5 hr mineral water dunk


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Offlinecantankerous

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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: TheDnB_One]
    #747481 - 07/15/02 07:48 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

if you dunked em in straight bleach then yup.


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Offlinequietnick
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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: TheDnB_One]
    #747571 - 07/15/02 08:27 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

consult hip's bleach dip for specfics but i beleive that it was a 10 minute [max.] dunk in a diluted mixture of blreach and water
500cc h2o : 1cc bleach

any longer or stronger and you risk burning the cake

hope this helps


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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: TheDnB_One]
    #747573 - 07/15/02 08:27 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I think hippie3 says that anything over 10 minutes could kill it even with a 1:100 ratio. The only sure way to find out though is to try and fruit it.


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InvisibleFd3000
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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: gratefulme]
    #747675 - 07/15/02 09:04 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

"500cc h2o : 1cc bleach"

Wow, what a load of shit! On mycotopia where the idea was originally posted he said 1:100 h2o:bleach and if the contam is bad you can double the strength, 2:100.

On there he also said 5-15 minutes.....

Fd


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InvisibleFd3000
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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: Fd3000]
    #747689 - 07/15/02 09:08 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Also hippie3's bleach was 6% sodium hypochloride, many other brands are 3% so you must double the ratio to have any effect.

"By Hippie3 (Admin) on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 01:35 am: Edit


1:100, damage starts around 1:50
and limit exposure to 5-15 minutes, that's all it takes. "

Here is the link to the above http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/8111.html?


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OfflineMadDhAdDeR420
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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: Fd3000]
    #748263 - 07/15/02 12:38 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

hippies bleach tek also requiers vinigar to balance out the bleach
100:2:1
water:vinigar:bleach


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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: MadDhAdDeR420]
    #748267 - 07/15/02 12:40 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

you can keep it in over night 24hrs-48hrs max


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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: MadDhAdDeR420]
    #748286 - 07/15/02 12:53 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

No viniger!

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update.
my recent experiments have brought me to the conclusion that the inclusion of vinegar in the formula, at least at the strength posted before, is causing some molds, esp. green [trich] to actually grow faster than before.
lol
but once i removed the vinegar from the solution,
once again i see it stopping the mold dead in it's track.
i think it has to do with the solution ph, the vinegar brings the ph into the range favored by trich,
while straight bleach is very basic/alkaline,
which trich hates. "

Read hippie3's update to the Tek. Here is the link http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Contams&Number=744664&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Viniger= Helping molds

Fd


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Re: 4 hr bleach dunk [Re: MadDhAdDeR420]
    #748500 - 07/15/02 02:51 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

no vinegar is right,
apparently it grows super trich, i should have realized that vinegar is made from grain and is nutritious, so the residues allow contams to return very quickly.
just use plain bleach, 1 part bleach to 100 parts water is full strength, a 6 hour dunk is ok but 10 minutes is all you need to get the job done.


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