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Weird LC
    #7471133 - 09/30/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So I have a LC, but I think something is wrong. There is no agitator to break up myc, and now the strands are starting to get a blackish color. I'll try to explain the best I can (still don't have a camera).

I have an identical LC, and several others in the same area. No visible contams in those yet.

The LC I speak of has a good amount of myc in it, but about a week ago I started to notice the myc turning dark gray in the insides of the clumps. I had not thought too much about it assuming they had just gotten thick, and the jars have beveled sides so I thought maybe it was just an optical misunderstanding. Back lit it looked just fine, but lit from the front it looked dark.

Now all the clumps of myc look completely black towards the center of them. Almost like some dark evil eating the myc from the inside out.

Should I NOT drink it? (joke).

Does it sound like black mold or something I should trash? Or should I just do a control jar and see what happens?

Sorry no pics.


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Re: Weird LC [Re: MajorDick]
    #7472176 - 09/30/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

if iwere you id follow up a control jar but you have to include what it smells like also it will help with the identification of the mold :smile: hope i could help- tim


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Re: Weird LC [Re: them0oninites]
    #7473677 - 10/01/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't even think about trying to smell the thing. I've never dealt with a contamed LC before. At least not that I know of - nothing that changed colors.

It doesn't smell bad. No smell at all really.

Held up the window it looks like old cobweb mold that you'd see on the ceiling. Are LC pretty good for growing out cobweb. I kinda figured that was one that would flourish in liquid.

I cleaned out the cabinet really well but it IS on the floor (TV stand). I'm going to have to re-think.. every time I close the doors it's pulling a shit load of nasties in off the god-forsaken carpet.

I'm gonna make a small cake and a LC for it the quarteine all of em'



Anyone think its more serious and I should just dump the thing?
Can black mold thrive in a LC.. Would it attack/attach to the mush myc?

It's f'd up cuz I even used a bit of it's twin LC a while back and it still looks fine (broke up the myc while i was in there). This one's never been opened or anything.


Wish I had a pic.. Again - It looks normal, but the myc is darkening.


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Re: Weird LC [Re: MajorDick]
    #7473679 - 10/01/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oh THAT Tim..

Sup?


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Re: Weird LC [Re: MajorDick]
    #7473974 - 10/01/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nothin just hanging waiting for people to effin reply to my post in the contam forum


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Re: Weird LC [Re: them0oninites]
    #7479379 - 10/02/07 11:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You wouldn't see black mold sporulate in LC suspension. For the same reason, you won't smell it.

I've had black specks/streaks in LCs before. To restate this board's mantra concerning LCs "Knock Up a Jar and See!"...

Not much else you can do.


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Re: Weird LC [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7480343 - 10/03/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly what I've done. And exactly what I thought. Thanks.

Like I said hadn't dealt with a contamed LC before.

It's just weird.. It's like the myc just started to get dark.


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Re: Weird LC [Re: MajorDick]
    #7493947 - 10/07/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

BUMP


Alright. I broke up the myc in that dark LC, and used some to knock up a LC and a 3/4 quart BRF cake in a candle jar with nice clear unobstructed glass for my viewing pleasure (or lack thereof).

Both took off as great as a LC inoculation would. The cake is about 40-50% done after only 7 days. The test LC is (WAS) one of my better looking ones - nice and fluffy.

AND NOW!

Quote:

Pink Mold; Red Bread Mold – Neurospora

Commonly to occasionally seen on agar and grain. Neurospora is fast growing, sometimes taking only 24 four hours to totally colonize a media filled petri dish. It is ubiquitous in nature, occurring on dung, in soils and on decaying plant matter. Since this fungus grows through cotton stoppers or filter discs, a single contaminated jar, though sealed, can spread spores to adjacent spawn jars within the laboratory. This condition is more likely if the filter discs or cotton plugs are the least bit damp; or if the external humidity is high. Furthermore, Neurospora spores germinate more readily at elevated temperatures. The pink mold seen in mushroom culture is most frequently Neurospora sitophila, a pernicious contaminant that is difficult to eliminate. All infected cultures should be removed as soon as possible from the laboratory and destroyed. A thorough cleaning of the laboratory is absolutely necessary. If contamination persists, remove all spawn and start anew.




I wish I had photos to share. Maybe I can use someones cellphone later. I'll try to describe. And of course I wanna know:
  • Would the contaminate be visible in a liquid culture?


So anyways. The myc in the cake is starting to get a purple hue to it in some places, and the LC i think is also.

Any input?

I've already started cleaning...


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Re: Weird LC [Re: MajorDick]
    #7495497 - 10/07/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

dude hope all is well with your stuff good luck fellow shrooma!


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Re: Weird LC [Re: them0oninites]
    #7495759 - 10/07/07 06:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I trashed the cake. Smelled like moldy bread.. go figure.


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Re: Weird LC [Re: MajorDick]
    #7495826 - 10/07/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

sux well good future luck lol


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Re: Weird LC [Re: them0oninites]
    #7496127 - 10/08/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Be sure to not blame the LC; knock up another to ensure the contamination was from the jar in question. Or just make a fresh LC :smile:


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