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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Ythan]
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oh, and PS, how much MP3s, Movies, software, etc do you have that's 100% legally obtained?

I'll bet you have more than a DS' worth illegal shit that's pirated. that's considered stealing too ya know.


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Ythan]
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:lol: you really are pissed, aren't you?

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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StonedShroom said:
how about you save up all that whining about stealing speech and let loose the next time you're behind some skank in the grocery store line using food stamps to buy bullshit.

if we want to talk about how stealing is wrong let's look at the G that I give the gov every month to fund skanks who don't know how to keep their legs closed or lazy people who claim they are disabled from some bullshit excuse.


your level of compassion is overwhelming.

should
have
sent
a
poet


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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You're right, the difference is:

a) It's not stealing, it's copyright infringement.

b) I'm not depriving anyone of property which is rightfully theirs, I'm just using software which I wouldn't pay for anyway.

c) I recognize the incongruity and I'm in the process of switching my system over to Linux and Free software.

Maggotz it's personal for me because I've had almost $2,000 stolen from me by "friends" with the same fucked up thought process as StonedShroom.

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: automan]
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yeah, well, people who abuse food stamps really irritate me. My second little part-time gig is at a convenience store and people buy bullshit with food stamps. basically, if it's not hot, they can buy it on EBT. I've never once seen milk, eggs, or any type of real food item bought with food stamps. and 9 out of 10 times there isn't even a kid in sight. Usually people bring in all their friends and they all buy slushies, beef jerky, burritos (they buy the burritos cold, then after they're paid for they go heat them up), and just junk food bullshit in general. I mean, I wouldn't have a problem if they came in and got some milk and juice then saw like a candy bar while they were at the checkstand... but to blatantly abuse the system, it's bullshit.

oh, and about 8/10 times after they make their food stamp purchase they'll pull out a wad of cash and buy cigarettes, rolling papers/blunts, and lotto tickets.

it's bullshit. if they have money for cigarettes and weed (since they're buying blunts) then they have money for food.


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Edited by StonedShroom (07/22/07 11:28 PM)

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Ythan]
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:o

ythan on linux?!?

i bet i could find a thread where you say "windows 4 life"


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Ythan]
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i'm with you 110% on this one. :yesnod:

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Ythan]
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so, just changing the name makes it better? oh you're not stealing, it's copywrite infringement.

Oh, ok, then I'm not stealing, I'm helping clear away clutter.


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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StonedShroom said:
yeah, well, people who abuse food stamps really irritate me. My second little part-time gig is at a convenience store and people buy bullshit with food stamps. basically, if it's not hot, they can buy it on EBT. I've never once seen milk, eggs, or any type of real food item bought with food stamps. and 9 out of 10 times there isn't even a kid in sight. Usually people bring in all their friends and they all buy slushies, beef jerky, burritos (they buy the burritos cold, then after they're paid for they go heat them up), and just junk food bullshit in general. I mean, I wouldn't have a problem if they came in and got some milk and juice then saw like a candy bar while they were at the checkstand... but to blatantly abuse the system, it's bullshit.

oh, and about 8/10 times after they make their food stamp purchase they'll pull out a wad of cash and buy cigarettes, rolling papers/blunts, and lotto tickets.

it's bullshit. if they have money for cigarettes and weed (since they're buying blunts) then they have money for food.


i can totally understand that. but i live in a rural farming community in the middle of the worst drought in recorded history. i see families in the grocery store that have NOTHING. their well has dried up and they carry water from the river like they would have done 100 years ago. they are proud people and you can see the pain of shame in their face every time they use a food stamp or WIC voucher.

personally, i feel like they should be handled through charity work and not through forced redistribution of wealth by the govt, but either way, i have compassion for them.

i saw a white kid steal from a gas station. does that mean all white people are thieves?


edit: stupid spelling mistakes


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Edited by automan (07/22/07 11:36 PM)

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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Well I'm glad we found something we agree on. :smile: Social welfare *is* theft. Make your vote count in 2008.

Automan, I have a legal license for Windows XP, I do like it, but the enhanced DRM and activation in Vista is a dangerous trend which I don't want to support.

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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StonedShroom said:
so, just changing the name makes it better? oh you're not stealing, it's copywrite infringement.

Oh, ok, then I'm not stealing, I'm helping clear away clutter.


heh, owned.


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Ythan]
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ythan, i just tried to msg you over irc. you must be on a different computer. sign in sometime :smile:


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: Syle]
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Owned by someone who doesn't understand the difference between taking an item and making a copy of it? I don't think so.

There are many valid arguments against copyright infringement, but equating it with theft of personal property isn't one of them.

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: automan]
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hey automan, I understand if a disaster happened and people needed help- right now our farmers lost a bunch of their crop due to floods, and the year before that they lost a lot of crops due to drought.

but the people I'm talking about have NO SHAME in using EBT.


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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I've worked at convenience stores too, Amoco and Circle K. My favorite is the pregnant women who come in to buy junk with food stamps and cigarettes with spare change. I've refused to serve them and fortunately my boss at the time was sympathetic. Imagine if they could buy a DS with food stamps and you'll see where I'm coming from.

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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people that manipulate the govt and steal have to wake up each morning and be themselves. even if they never realize the life they could have lived and the rewards that come with it....


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: automan]
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if i was that girl and you actually took that shit without asking i would kick the shit out of you.

stoned shroom

wake up

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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: pong]
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Well my suggestion offer her 70 dollars for it just say "Hey can you find that white ds for me I wanna buy it off of you i would pay 100 but its used so $70" :grin: Thats how i got my black ds and my friend had only owned it for a day


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: minisharkx]
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man.. tempers flared. i personally don't like the thought of stealing from someone you consider a friend, even if they are bitches with no appreciation for the value of a hard-earned dollar.

that being said, i wouldn't really look down on you like ythan has pronounced he does, despite my mild disapproval. it really is rather contemptible how wasteful and unappreciative some people are. BUT, again, i wouldn't condone it. i do, however, steal from walmart, because they're evil.

maybe you could ask to borrow it, and then just keep it until she asks for it back. which could be indefinitely.


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Re: Is it wrong to steal... [Re: StonedShroom]
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its not stealing if you do it really fast and noone sees


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