badchad said:

This study was funded by the National Institue of Health.

We all know that government funded studies on the effects of marijuana are nothing but biased propaganda.

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highdroponics said:

vaporizers are alright, i just dont like them myself, i like getting full flavor when smoking pot, i stick to bowls myself, even though i know its still giving me some harmful chemicals, the taste is one of the main reasons i smoke it and smoking through a vaporizer tastes like inhaling soup steam or something, just not for me. great study though.

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eyesoftheworld said:

highdroponics said:

vaporizers are alright, i just dont like them myself, i like getting full flavor when smoking pot, i stick to bowls myself, even though i know its still giving me some harmful chemicals, the taste is one of the main reasons i smoke it and smoking through a vaporizer tastes like inhaling soup steam or something, just not for me. great study though.

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Vaporizing is the only method that has given me the full taste of the bud I'm smoking at the time. You're not burning anything and it just tastes like straight bud.

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ApJunkie said:

badchad said:

This study was funded by the National Institue of Health.

We all know that government funded studies on the effects of marijuana are nothing but biased propaganda.

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uuhhh.... did you read what he posted? And have you ever used a vaporizer? The article was an accurate report of a vape, and calling it propoganda merely because it was sponsored by the Gov. is tremendously shorsighted.

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Marijuana Vaporizer Provides Same Level Of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Science Daily — A smokeless cannabis-vaporizing device delivers the same level of active therapeutic chemical and produces the same biological effect as smoking cannabis, but without the harmful toxins, according to University of California San Francisco researchers.

Results of a UCSF study, which focuses on delivery of the active ingredient delta-9-tertrahydrocannibinol, or THC, are reported in the online issue of the journal "Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics."

"We showed in a recent paper in the journal 'Neurology' that smoked cannabis can alleviate the chronic pain caused by HIV-related neuropathy, but a concern was expressed that smoking cannabis was not safe. This study demonstrates an alternative method that gives patients the same effects and allows controlled dosing but without inhalation of the toxic products in smoke," said study lead author Donald I. Abrams, MD, UCSF professor of clinical medicine.

The research team looked at the effectiveness of a device that heats cannabis to a temperature between 180 and 200 degrees C, just short of combustion, which occurs at 230 degrees C. Eighteen individuals were enrolled as inpatients for six days under supervision in the General Clinical Research Center at San Francisco General Hospital Medical Center.

Under the study protocol, the participants received on different days three different strengths of cannabis by two delivery methods--smoking or vaporization--three times a day.

Plasma concentrations of THC were measured along with the exhaled levels of carbon monoxide, or CO. A toxic gas, CO served as a marker for the many other combustion-generated toxins inhaled when smoking. The plasma concentrations of THC were comparable at all strengths of cannabis between smoking and vaporization. Smoking increased CO levels as expected, but there was little or no increase in CO levels after inhaling from the vaporizer, according to Abrams.

"Using CO as an indicator, there was virtually no exposure to harmful combustion products using the vaporizing device. Since it replicates smoking's efficiency at producing the desired THC effect using smaller amounts of the active ingredient as opposed to pill forms, this device has great potential for improving the therapeutic utility of THC," said study co-author Neal L. Benowitz, MD, UCSF professor of medicine, psychiatry and biopharmaceutical sciences. He added that pills tend to provide patients with more THC than they need for optimal therapeutic effect and increase side effects.

Patients rated the "high" they experienced from both smoking and vaporization and there was no difference between the two methods by patient self-report of the effect, according to study findings. In addition, patients were asked which method they preferred.

"By a significant majority, patients preferred vaporization to smoking, choosing the route of delivery with the fewest side effects and greatest efficiency," said Benowitz.

Co-authors include Cheryl A. Jay, MD, UCSF neurology; and Starley B. Shade, MPH; Hector Vizoso, RN; and Mary Ellen Kelly, MPH, UCSF Positive Health Program at San Francisco General Hospital Medical Center.

The study was funded by the University of California's Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by University of California - San Francisco.

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fastfred said:

The study was funded by the University of California's Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research.

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Cowgold said:

ApJunkie said:

badchad said:

This study was funded by the National Institue of Health.

We all know that government funded studies on the effects of marijuana  are nothing but biased propaganda.

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uuhhh.... did you read what he posted? And have you ever used a vaporizer? The article was an accurate report of a vape, and calling it propoganda merely because it was sponsored by the Gov. is tremendously shorsighted.

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uuhhh... did you read what badchad said?  He didn't call it propaganda.

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badchad said:

Okay, I must admit that my first post was entirely sarcastic.

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You seriously thought he was being literal. 

highdroponics said:

vaporizers are alright, i just dont like them myself, i like getting full flavor when smoking pot, i stick to bowls myself, even though i know its still giving me some harmful chemicals, the taste is one of the main reasons i smoke it and smoking through a vaporizer tastes like inhaling soup steam or something, just not for me. great study though.

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Have you used a Volcano? Or some home made POS lightbulb bullshit?

I have no idea how you claim to enjoy "full flavor" when burning weed REDUCES the flavor. The flame burns away most of the flavor... You are tasting tar and ash with some flavor from the parts of the bowl that didn't get napalmed.

With a perfect Volcano hit, you can taste and smell the true essence of the herb... with all the essential oils and shit NOT completely incinerated into cancerous ash.

Your statement is highly illogical.

At least you use a bowl... they are still better than joints and WAY better than blunts if you REALLY enjoy the natural flavor of bud.