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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Hank, FTW]
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The Talmud is not scripture. Scripture is the Torah. The Talmud is a collection of writings by Jewish sages, not all of whom agree and not all of whom are followed nor attended for centuries. Certainly there are elements of the Torah (Old Testament) that advocate killing of nonbelievers. They also advocate stoning adulterers. None of these things happen today. Jews, as much as but no more than non Jews, occasionally commit less than ethical and sometimes criminal business dealings. Amazingly, they are subject to the same laws as everybody else.

They are clannish. So are Scots. Who cares?


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: zappaisgod]
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Fair enough.

I am just saying, when a white guy tries to help his own, he is often called a racist.

That is why things like affirmative action are in place.


If a Jewish guy wants to help his own, well shit, they have been persecuted since the beginning of time, they have every right to.

Do you see where I am coming from?


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Successful white men are the modern day demons. "Look how successful they are. It must be a plot. Surely they could not have done it through diligence and hard work. Why, my slacker no show ass is poor. They must be luckier."

Don't make the same mistake with Jews. Stupid lazy Jews are poor. Smart hardworking Jews are not. Losers will always find somebody else to blame for their loserhood.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: zappaisgod]
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You are missing my point.

I am not claiming Jews are lazy, or lucky, or anything similar.

I am claiming that they(the ones in power) are completely hypocritical and down right arrogant.

Don't get me wrong, I am not an anti-Semite, I am an anti-elitist. So I agree with you that successful, white men in power are demons too. What I hate particularly though, are the media moguls and minority rights groups out there, that make being white harder than it should be, given we live in places that are a majority white.

IE, I would never go to Israel, and demand they to take down their menorah's during Hanuka because it offends me. Not that the removal of Christmas has made it harder for me, but it is part of a trend. If the trend doesn't stop, things will look very bad for my grand children. It probably will, but I am not comfortable with probably.

Can you see at all where I am coming from?


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: zappaisgod]
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Jews arent any more shady than Americans or anyone else in their business dealings. I find that its Armenians who are the most shady business people around.

Jews just tend to do more business than most other groups and it is true that they stick together more and are much more fair with their own than with other groups.

This has nothing to do with ancient scripts or the torah, it has more to do with the jewish community. They are a tight knit group and in business they are even tighter. Screwing over a community member is business suicide for a jewish business person.

Squeezing out top dollar over anyone else (gentiles) is just the way of business and nobody does it better than Jews but ethical and legal business practices are two different things.

Ethically Jews are shrewd while legally they are honest. After all an investment isnt secure if you are breaking the law and thats not good business. Armenians on the other hand screw over everyone and break laws left and right in business dealings. Americans are about the same too but its split, their are many many honest American business people and just as many dishonest ones.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: GabbaDj]
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The only Armenian I know is pretty honest. Weird as they come but honest. Funny you run into so many of them.

Hank, I don't know what to say. For someone who isn't anti semitic you sure seem to obsess about Jews. As far as I can tell, and I know a shitload of them, they're pretty much just exactly like any other group with a common identity. First allegiance, family: second, clan: third, wider group, country, whatever. The ones I know pamper their young far more than others but I'm not so sure that is beneficial for the kids. In fact, I think it ill serves them, but that's probably more a NYC thing than a Jewish thing.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
They are clannish. So are Scots. Who cares?


Well if you admit as much I suppose there isn't very much to argue over.

I do take contention with exclusive religions though, as history tells us that such groups tend to segregate themselves more then others, to the detriment of themselves and their surrounding societies.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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Every club is exclusive


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Hank, FTW said:
Interesting point, which came first, the chicken or the egg?



Sorry, I have nothing to contribute to the topic except this:


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: zappaisgod]
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Quote:
Are you Christian? Muslim? Buddhist? They ALL think I am less than human.


Perhaps its personal :wink:

I mean Buddhists think you're less than human?
What did you do to deserve that?


Dutch people have a fine tradition of hemoglobin production. So, that needed be said :nut:
Everybody in the monetary system has a moneymaking tradition in some way or they had none to spend.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Every club is exclusive


Not all religious groups are as exclusive as Judaism with regards to the acceptance of new converts. Note that this is not a trait of the ethnic group which is determined by their race but is caused by their religion. Exclusive religious practices are harmful because they contribute to elitist and isolationist tendencies.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Asante]
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> I mean Buddhists think you're less than human?

Probably meant Bene Gesserit... :wink:

> Not all religious groups are as exclusive as Judaism with regards to the acceptance of new converts.

They aren't exclusive and will accept anybody that truly wants to convert.  However, they do not go out looking for people to annoy... I mean convert... the way Christianity does.  The reason it seems exclusive is because they want to be certain that a person is really determined to become part of the faith.

> Exclusive religious practices are harmful because they contribute to elitist and isolationist tendencies.

... and isolating oneself and pretending to be superior is harmful how?  Everybody else feels bad about being ignored?  I think people need to get over their inferiority complex and stop worrying about how elite others appear.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
... and isolating oneself and pretending to be superior is harmful how? Everybody else feels bad about being ignored? I think people need to get over their inferiority complex and stop worrying about how elite others appear.


It cuts you off from new data by which is necessary to pursue a self-correcting pool of knowledge, philosophy or political ideology. Not only that but I suspect it also makes it easier for you to dehumanize others thereby degenerating your sense of ethics. I'm not saying you need to be a party hound, I am saying that isolationism is bad policy for persons just as it is for nations.

If you think of people as the most advanced computers produced to date (which is in a sense what they are) then it would be easy to see why it is not profitable to cut yourself off from them completely. It'd be the equivalent of cutting your computer off from the net- sure there may be some advantages in security, and it could lead to the evolution of some unique traits but overall the effect will be that of a drastic loss of useful information.

If I had a quantum computer I'd use it for data. People are more intelligent and contain more knowledge then even a quantum computer. Hence people are always useful outlets for acquiring data.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

Edited by FrenchSocialist (04/22/07 04:48 AM)

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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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Hank FTW said:

"I am an anti-elitist. So I agree with you that successful, white men in power are demons too."

And thats when I stop reading any more of your posts.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: hot48yearolds]
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I'm glad the Jews are taught the work ethic. I support successful white people.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: HighTek]
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HighTek said:
Hank, FTW said:
Interesting point, which came first, the chicken or the egg?



Sorry, I have nothing to contribute to the topic except this:





Fish and reptiles were laying eggs long before there were any birds.


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Hank, FTW said:
I just don't like the Jewish double standard. Many of them clearly admit to openly partaking in such practices(scamming the gentiles, but not their own) while at the same time, using said money to fund groups like the ADL and the ACLU which push affirmative action and other programs for "the fair and equal treatment of all people".


You say that as if Jews are a homogenous group. Can you prove to me that the Jews who openly scam Gentiles are also the ones supporting the ACLU? I can think of a couple situations where the ACLU and ADL have butted heads(defending the free speech of Neo-Nazis, for example).


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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Silversoul]
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I would love to see some examples of the ADL protecting the free speech of Neo-Nazis. Quite the opposite actually, they call it "hate speech" and are looking to outlaw it under hate crime legislation.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: 'Moneymaking part of Jewish tradition' [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Hank, FTW said:
I would love to see some examples of the ADL protecting the free speech of Neo-Nazis. Quite the opposite actually, they call it "hate speech" and are looking to outlaw it under hate crime legislation.


I think you misunderstood me. I was talking about the ACLU defending Neo-Nazis. I was citing an example in which the ACLU and ADL have clashed with each other.


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