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Tony Dungy - how does he feel about the homothexuals?
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The Indianapolis Colts' head coach, Tony Dungy, is under scrutiny for his appearance at a dinner hosted by the Indiana Family Institute (IFI), a group that actively opposes gay rights and is pushing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. While Dungy has the right to speak at the event, his silence on his views on gay rights is being seen as disappointing, especially given his outspoken Christian beliefs and the fact that he has used his platform to express gratitude to God after victories. The IFI's agenda is clear, and Dungy's association with the group raises questions about whether he shares their views. The author argues that Dungy's silence is not acceptable and that he should be held accountable for his association with the group, pointing out that previous speakers at the event have been more forthcoming about their views. The author also notes that Dungy's supporters are using his appearance as an opportunity to express their own anti-gay views, which the author finds repulsive.

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Tony Dungy has every right to speak at a dinner of the Indiana Family Institute, which opposes gay rights. But he needs to be accountable for whether he shares the group's political goals.

Dungy, head coach of the Super Bowl champion Indianapolis Colts, has raised eyebrows by being the honored guest at the IFI's $75-a-plate "Friends of the Family" benefit on March 20. The event is expected to draw 700 people and raise $50,000, the Indianapolis Star reported. Dungy gives the dinner real star power since no previous event has drawn more than 440 people, the Star said.

IFI is a political advocacy group with a very clear agenda, summed up on its website: "Throughout its 16-year history, the Indiana Family Institute has sought to bring Biblical values and Biblical ethics to the public policy making process in Indiana. To this end, we have opposed all efforts to create or advance special civil or legal rights for homosexuals."

The group is very active in trying to push an amendment to the Indiana constitution that would ban same-sex marriage. It also opposed the decision by Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels in 2005 that added sexual orientation to the list of protected categories in state employment. There is no mistaking what the IFI stands for when it comes to gay rights – it opposes them in every instance.

Does Dungy share these beliefs? We don't know because he's not talking and this is very disappointing. The Colts did not respond to three separate requests from Outsports for an interview, and the Indianapolis Star and AP were also turned down.

Is Dungy a homophobe? I won't label him as such until I hear his views on gay issues. IFI President Curt Smith, perhaps trying to give the coach cover, told the Star that "he hasn't discussed public policy with Dungy and is unaware of the coach's views on the marriage amendment. He said it would be wrong to assume anything about Dungy's views on that issue." Smith said that, "The goal of this award is to celebrate people who live out the family ethic that we think is essential to healthy families. You don't have to agree with us on all of our public policy issues." (The Colts are keeping their distance, telling AP: "The Colts do not endorse any political or religious position taken by any group that any Colts employee decides to speak or lend his or her name to.'')

Why the silence from Dungy? He has always been very vocal about his strong Christian beliefs, and regularly cites God when he talks, including after winning the AFC title game and the Super Bowl this past season. "The Lord orchestrated this," Dungy said on the NFL Network about Indy's Super Bowl season.

When the coach of the Super Bowl champs accepts an award from a group that actively opposes gay rights, he can't hide behind the Colts PR department, which told the Star he was too busy to comment. His appearance at the dinner is endorsing IFI and raising it more money than any previous event. These are the unanswered questions we sent to Colts PR head Craig Kelley about which we wanted Dungy to answer:

--Does he endorse IFI's views on gay rights and gay marriage? What are his views on the subject?

--What is his purpose for speaking before IFI? The group is very up front about its desire to have a political impact and does he share that advocacy?

--Does he agree or not with Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith's take on having a gay player: "We don't try to judge people's lifestyles and things like that. We don't get into people's personal lives in that way. We judge players based on one thing: Can they play football? If you can play football, you can get into the locker room."

--Has he ever coached a player as an assistant or head coach he knew was gay, and if so, did his relationship change with this player and how so?

Those are pretty simple questions that Dungy can easily answer. Many of the people on various Colts message boards who support Dungy are claiming that gay people are trying to deny him his 1st Amendment rights. Nothing can be further from the truth.

I defend Dungy's right to say and believe anything he wants and to speak to whomever he wants. But I also have a right to ask for answers from a person who is accepting an award from a group that is political in nature and seeks to influence public policy. Silence won't cut it. This is akin to politicians like George W. Bush and John McCain, who were forced to publicly defend their appearances at Bob Jones University, a school that had a tradition of racist policies.

Dungy's supporters on Star message boards (more than 600 comments were posted about his dinner appearance) assume he believes like they do. "Dungy not only has the right to oppose homos, he should be THANKED for representing our God-fearing city the way most of us would want him to," read one post that was, sadly, representative of majority opinion on the subject ("You don't have to be a right-winger to be repulsed by homosexuality," said another poster).

As a Colts fan who watched virtually every play of the glorious 2006 season, I've always been impressed by Dungy's demeanor and class. He's someone who has proved you don't have to be an arrogant, anti-social control freak to be a successful head coach, and I am always impressed about how his players – past and present – speak of him with a mixture of awe and reverence.

Dungy has never come across as a hater. I would like to think that Dungy does not embrace the views of his "supporters" who write things like, "I feel BAD for queers. They're seriously like retarded or something." Until he clearly articulates his thoughts on the issue of gays and gay rights, though, I can only conclude that he shares the same world view, if not the vile language. Dungy needs to defend the company he keeps or distance himself from it.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Tony Dungy - how does he feel about the homothexuals? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I dont think this is an issue of "is Dungy a homophobe?" Its more an issue of does he believe in the same things that most churches do. He seems in this article to be a religious man not a homophobic one. There is nothing homophobic about wanting gay marriage to be banned. It doesnt mean you hate gay people. It means that you probably look at marriage as a religious thing. Since your religion does not support gay marriage, neither do you. It does not mean you want all gay people to die.

I dont have a problem with people who dont support gay rights or civil unions, but my only problem with this story is that this is a group of religious people trying to impose their views on the rest of their state. I think thats wrong. Dungy should be under fire for that more than anything else. I always say that its one thing to have something illegal and its another thing to have it legal and optional. They shouldnt be fighting against gay marriage because its an optional thing. I bet not one of those 700 (or however many people) would get married to the same sex. I know this because all marriage (gay and straight) is optional in this country. You are never forced to get married, thus it does not affect them.

I like Dungy but I dont support religions pushing 2000 year old views.


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Re: Tony Dungy - how does he feel about the homothexuals? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Dungy supports gay marriage ban in speech

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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Tony Dungy is a deeply religious man who puts his faith first in his life, even above family and football. So his support of a proposed gay-marriage ban likely surprised few.

What was surprising is the Indianapolis Colts' quiet coach shared his position publicly, sparking discussion about the impact of the Super Bowl winner's comments.

Dungy caused a stir Tuesday when he accepted the "Friend of Family" award from the conservative Indiana Family Institute.

The coach told the audience he supported the group's efforts to amend the Indiana constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman.

"I appreciate the stance they're taking, and I embrace that stance," Dungy told the crowd of about 700 people.

Dungy said his comments should not be considered gay bashing.

"We're not trying to downgrade anyone else. But we're trying to promote the family -- family values the Lord's way," Dungy said.



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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Tony Dungy - how does he feel about the homothexuals? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Families are for suckers.


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