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First timer w/Salvia
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I've never done salvia before and I'm about to order some for the first time. I am wondering what would be a good extract to start out with. I want to first get a feel for what salvia has to offer before I completely immerse myself in wonderland so I was thinking about going with the 5x extract. Is this too strong, not strong enough, or good to start with. And can anyone recommend a good/reliable vendor. Thanks

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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: aloofiam]
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be careful Sally demands tons of respect, or she'll rape the shit out of your mind.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: aloofiam]
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Extracts are bad.

Plain leaf is the only way to go.

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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: TYL3R]
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Yes, you may want to try some plain leaf before you move on to extract.

It's nice and cheap on eBay, last time I checked.


As for vendors...are we allowed to post sources? I'll pm you. =0)


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Banez]
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Banez said:
be careful Sally demands tons of respect, or she'll rape the shit out of your mind.


haha thanks for the tip

i got a 20x strain for the first go today, i'll be proceeding with caution


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Banez]
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Banez said:
be careful Sally demands tons of respect, or she'll rape the shit out of your mind.


qft

I don't remember the exact size I got, but I ordered the smallest amount of dry leaves from Shaman's Palace possible and made the extract myself to save money. This was like 7 months ago

After having made the extract, i've actually only smoked it twice, simply because it is so intense. It puts me in the most confound state of confusion. I cannot understand a single thing going on around me, and half of the time i literally feel trapped, like i cannot move because i'm stuck in slight repetitions of movement.

A lot of people really dig it, but honestly it scares the shit out of me and i feel very uncomfortable, so just be prepared and be safe.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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Irradiated_Feces said:
Why do I waste my money on salvia? All it does for me is make my body heavy and feel like I have a headrush for 10 minutes.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Jackenobi]
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Anyone who smokes the extract is guaranteed an absolute horrible time.

ENJOY !

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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
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my first two salvia experiences were "bad" or unpleasant.. but since i have been able to focus myself, and show the substance more respect and understanding.. and its quite powerful.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Banez]
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So the general consensus is that 5X is too strong for a first timer? Can you still get full blown effects from just the leaves? I just want to test the waters before I jump in. Can one even have threshold effects with salvia or is it all or nothing?

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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: aloofiam]
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I was never able to get full blown effects with leaves.

There is definitely a gradient of effects...it not an all or nothing type thing.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: aloofiam]
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Personally Id go with 5x, I tried plain leaves and didnt feel much, there was a little bit of drowsy feeling for like, a minute, and thats it. And that was after smoking bowls and bowls of the shit...
Maybe it was just a bad batch... :shrug:


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: aloofiam]
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Whatever you do, just don't convince yourself that you're "ready" to break through on Salvia. You're not.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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You guys are gonna make him paranoid and have a bad trip cause of it....


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: eligal]
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eligal said:
You guys are gonna make him paranoid and have a bad trip cause of it....


Hey, salvia was the most jarring experience of my life. I woke up the morning after breaking through curled up in the fetal position in tears, thinking I could never look at life the same again. I got over that, but I mean, it's fucking JARRING.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: aloofiam]
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Don't go for the plain leaf. Plain leaf sucks; one time I bought a quarter pound of the stuff and continuously tried smoking it out of bongs and bowls with my friends, and it was hard to even get minimal effects.

The lowest you should go is 10x. Salvia is really hard to break through on in my experience, and unless you're really predispositioned to its effects, anything lower and you'll have to work really hard to get any sensations besides a heavy body load. Even with 20x, I can still just take a couple bong rips of the stuff, hold it in for 30 seconds each and just feel high, with no major mindfuck or hallucinations or anything.

And don't listen to people who tell you about being "ready" or any of that shit. People with mystical opinions on salvia are complete bullshitters. I've done it hundreds of times, and each time it feels just like chemicals in my brain really fucking with my perceptions. As long as you've done other drugs, you should be able to get used to the effects fairly quickly.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Ravus]
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And 5x isn't too high for a first timer; it's probably going to be too low. You don't want to spend some money on getting 5x, nervously wait for it to arrive, and then smoke it only to get the slightest head rush and body sensations. Seeing as salvia only lasts 10 minutes, in my experience it's far better to go too high with the strength of the extract than too low; just make sure you're in a mellow, calm mood and you have a chair to lay back in, because it's really going to pull you down when it kicks in.


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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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All right, I've made up my mind. I'll start with the 5X and proceed with caution. It will be my own little experiment/research project. Thanks for all the words of wisdom people.

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Re: First timer w/Salvia [Re: Ravus]
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my first time was with 20x. Not much happened.
A few weeks on from this and I smoked about 2grams of 20x in a night and by the end of It I felt Peaceful. Divine. One.

I was under a massive yew tree at 4 in the morning watching the sky. By the end of the night I was doing the tiniest pinch and time / space would crack open. At one point I saw through the hole and watched what I believe to be the mayans have a celebration of some kind and they were blowing shit into each others faces. It was very vivid.

it absolutely devastated my mind, I felt mentally exhausted for ages ( I ate 4g of mushrooms the next day, and had my first and only bad trip). Salvia is divine, Every time I smoke it now I feel completely at peace with everything.. (and some sort of vortex thing sort of fuzzess open and starts to pull me in )


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