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salvia vials?
    #5648088 - 05/18/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i was at venice beach this last weekend, and at every head shop there, they were selling vials of liquid salvia extract, for 75 bucks. The guy at one of them told me that you put about 5 drops on your tounge and leave them there. The comeup is supposed to be much more gentle, and the peak is supposed to be alot more mellow than when smoked, and its supposed to last longer. Anyone heard of this?


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Re: salvia vials? [Re: chaospilot]
    #5649239 - 05/19/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes it's called Salvia tincture. Haven't tried it yet, it's pretty expensive. But you have to keep in in your mouth for a good while and a lot of people say it burns. It should produce longer more mellow trips.


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Re: salvia vials? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5649277 - 05/19/06 07:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Tinctures aren't so great as a method that aims for Salvias chemical effects on you, if it would rather be wanted for taste or other desires then thats your own reason for buying it, but regardless tinctures are more of a 2nd or 3rd way to go about meeting Salvia's experience IMO. Smoking is my prefered method, which is #1 of the others #2 and #3, one being tincure...lets say #3 is tincture in a scale of which is more convenient as a method to acheive the chemical alterations and which is a better method for acquiring the chemical with more ease (convenience) and more concentrated/higher levels of the chemical in which alters your perception, sight, tactile senses, taste, or whatever else salvia can do to you during the drugs experience.

Get extracted foliage, and go from 5x+ otherwise you could be sensitive to the drug and therefore a stronger will be presented to you 5x and if it is intense then imagine what a straight off 10x-20x-30x extract would affect you...Hope im not scaring you, and you to my understanding probably know this shit and its useless towards you, but regardless its here...read 'em an weep if you need too. Good-Luck! Clean the walls of your mouth, if you do use a tincture as it will help the walls of your mouth absorb the chemical extracted from the tincture. Waste of $75 if you ask me, $75 that could be used to buy a reasonable amount of 20x extract somewhere.

BTW come up is more gentle and sometimes unapparent especialy if your tolerance is affected backwards during the intial absorption. Taste sucks or so I heard and yes it burns, but IMO burning + sucking are favored amongst my taste buds :smile:. Im not sure of the method in which you clean your walls within your mouth, but if you obtain a tincture i'd recommend it, if it was not for me being so assured it works either way then i'd just agree to it being a requirement for any effects to happen, but in truth i've never done a tincture since it was always easier to smoke, and the gentle come up might be nice but eventually you will acheive the same effects if not weaker or stronger, and smoking just starts the experience sooner it really isnt idealistic to use a tincture for a more gentle come up since this isn't like DMT (so sudden is its plateu acheived its remarkably scary, remarkably scary with joy, or remarkably scary with terror) in most events of smoking salvia. If smoking is undesireable then you aren't respecting salvia, its said that if one uses substances like LSD for recreational intentions they have a higher chance of undergoing a bad trip, if you respect salvia and the affects while acknowledging safety and no side-effects will occur while accepting the tactile feeling or gravity of salvia in all its meaning then you will not feel so bad...you might hate it and if so dont do it or go for a smaller dose or weaker method. Its ignorance that determines first-hand that the experience is unejoyable to ones' overall self. Salvia is safe, short (smoked), intense, fun/undesired, similar to imagining something to appear vividly in your vision; CEV/OEV are like dreams while awake...or unconcious if you pass out during experience (IMO their like see-through fuzzy, but vivid animations of visuals that were always strongly detailed and not sight oriented more like they were real visuals with their own independent life, and at times there would be structures that engulfed around me causing me to be placed within a building full of things, which mostly consisted of people and animals; elephants, staff-employees, tigers, dogs, cats, McDonalds Drive-Thru lady, bee (insect), trees, horse, mountains, tents, brick buildings, close combat battles full of swords and bows as weapons, life as a light post, life as a futon, life as a cup holder, running backwards to run forwards (third-person outlook), rarely a morphing enviroment that usual took me places, but the sad thing is sometimes the adventures wouldn't last but what felt like seconds, if im not correct then im sorry, but salvia is a time disoriented drug, which makes time seem thick and slow but fast to, though thats IMO.


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Re: salvia vials? [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #5649294 - 05/19/06 07:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i never tried it, think about it most headshops sell 10x and 20x that dont work at all, you need to get 10x from a good place like iamshaman.com so most headshops extract dont work, i doubt the vials would work too, but try and let us know


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Re: salvia vials? [Re: Jalruza]
    #5649341 - 05/19/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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i never tried it, think about it most headshops sell 10x and 20x that dont work at all, you need to get 10x from a good place like iamshaman.com so most headshops extract dont work, i doubt the vials would work too, but try and let us know




Yeah its probably thought of as weak when headshop material doesn't give off a change, even at such high concentrations.

It in-fact is quit a gamble in which acheiving salvia's experience is determined, but the headshop could be hustling you or gimping, which i've seen before, and wont again. Its a great idea to buy from recommended shops such as iamXXaman or bXXncingXXXXbotXXical. The second recommendation is where I bought both 10x and 15x, and eventually both did me in, and surprisingly enough it was 10x, if Im remembering correctly. I also bought 4-5 bags full (big bags) of simple salvia foliage and fortified and enhanced further using methods I found myself and from this very place. That material at its final product (5x-10x) gave off a nicely intense effect, but not any overwhelming effects from refined 10x-15x. A friend didn't even get high off 10 hits of my self-made extract he had to hit 11 hits in a water bong with a torch and heavy clouds of smoke. It depends on your tolerance.

Its all definently a gamble.


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Re: salvia vials? [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #5649588 - 05/19/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

very profitable business I guess
few return customers though.

except those already on something else.

absorption is too slow orally for 5 drops to do anything unless they were drops of acetone jammed with 4mgsalvinorin each.
and that would burn your little french kisser to smithereens.

expect at most a mild level 3 at 40 times what you should spend for an even better effect.


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