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OfflineAninator
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Redstorm]
    #5365251 - 03/04/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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For one to disagree is OK; for own to hate that which he does not understand is pure ignorance.




What if one understands it, yet hates it still?




Even so there is a way to hate something and express it in a civil inoffensive tone and language. I think you're always free to feel how you feel as long as you back it up and have grounded reason for it. Either way you have to deal with it and accept it becuase there are always going to be things to hate or disagree in life. you can either chose to have a hatred for it or you could learn to just accept the fact that we are in a world of infinite nature in everyway shape and form. That making, for me, what is so beautiful about the world. i'd rather just have my own educated opinions about things, and be open to hearing different arguments and figuring out how I feel. I dunno i just think when you are blatantly mean and offensive and exclusive it doesn't serve any good to anyone. I believe that we should all try to accept our differences and our different beliefs and continue on as friends. Not to make fun of, push away and comepletely bash or belittle each other for having a different point of view. Get off your ego trip and realize that your opinions and feelings are no more valid that anyone elses. We all percieve things in different ways and we're all in turn different people but no one is better than the other. You assume the arogant concieted role by behaving this way.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
    #5365273 - 03/04/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Only offensive thing on the boards is biased moderating. Too often things are left to slide for one member that another would get punished for.

If you take internet words to heart you probably need help functioning in real life. Realize people have different opinions, learn how to articulate yours, and you'll be good.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
    #5365291 - 03/04/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Chill the fuck out.

There isn't an issue here as far as I'm concerned.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Adom]
    #5365308 - 03/04/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
    #5365314 - 03/04/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
At which point does freedom of speech end and does the right to be protected against noxious behavior take over?




There are no lines, and if there are, they should be crossed immediately.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: HippieChick]
    #5365326 - 03/04/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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HippieChick said:
Nobody makes you read it .



:thumbup:


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: daimyo]
    #5365327 - 03/04/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.




Oh, god, no. Please, god, oh, no; no, god, please, no!


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: shroomydan]
    #5365329 - 03/04/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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shroomydan said:
90+% of all great thinkers of all time have believed in God




Haha, no they didn't. Actually, this is foolish to even attempt to argue, considering there is no objective criteria for what makes a "great thinker." Since you believe in God, most of the thinkers that you think are great probably did believe in God, because most people tend to read and appreciate others in whom their own beliefs are reflected.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
    #5365345 - 03/04/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
How does it affect you?



It doesn't. I don't think I've ever been offended by a post, but if I were I'd ask myself why, and try to change for the better.

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
What are your thoughts about it?



People fear what they do not understand. Ignorance breeds contempt.

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
How do you feel the Shroomery is affected, and what should the management do?



I think the Shroomery is positively affected. Every time someone is offended it forces them to look at the reason. Hopefully this will in turn help them understand that people have differing views, and allow them to be more accepting of others.

The management should encourage this, and certainly not reprimand it.

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
At which point does freedom of speech end and does the right to be protected against noxious behavior take over?



You're not American are you?

None of what I said applies to blatant flaming(OTD works fine for that). That just dumbs down the forums and will certainly ruin the site if allowed.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: daimyo]
    #5365417 - 03/04/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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daimyo said:
I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.




That is not a good idea.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Noetical]
    #5367105 - 03/05/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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The Noetic Hogan Nip said:
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daimyo said:
I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone.  Something along the lines of MR&P.




That is not a good idea.




:hitler: <-------none of that please. I like it the way it is.... over moderating it would make it NOT FUN.... i still think blatant offensive attacks on people should be dumped in OTD, but don't start wholesale editing of the Pub.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: mediman0078]
    #5367191 - 03/05/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I say hooray for Freedom of Speech...

It would probably be more effective to enforce a policy of discouragement (by masses of people), rather than ban somebody... unless it is very direct, very malicious, and having occured several times.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Herbus]
    #5367284 - 03/05/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't like pictures of helpless animals being tortured. The only time I thought shit was a little over the line, but its my fault for strolling through that particular thread. I cast no blame or anger at anyone for posting anything. As a person chooses to live, let him be, if it no harms me.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5368176 - 03/05/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Seriously... I hate that Japanese girl now.

I mean really hate her, too.

If I met her, I'd feel very compelled to kick her ass.

If you're a girl, and you squish a cute little kitten with your high heel... you pretty much undergo a sex change as far as rules of engagement go...


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Herbus]
    #5368320 - 03/05/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would really hate to see a bunch of restrictions placed in a forum like this. I don't see any possible benefit of enacting new rules on top of the personal discretion of the moderators.

placing a bunch of restrictions on people is only going to bring about a bunch of drama that could be easily avoided by just telling people to take everything they read on the internet with a grain of salt.

it's really not complicated.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
    #5368348 - 03/05/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

not much flaming on these boards, i like it.


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: deryl]
    #5368378 - 03/05/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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deryl said:
I would really hate to see a bunch of restrictions placed in a forum like this. I don't see any possible benefit of enacting new rules on top of the personal discretion of the moderators.

placing a bunch of restrictions on people is only going to bring about a bunch of drama that could be easily avoided by just telling people to take everything they read on the internet with a grain of salt.

it's really not complicated.




Yeah well the treatment I received (one of my own countrymen god-dammit !) from one individual -he knows knows who he is, although no-one's seen him for a while so he may not read this- onsite was f****ing disgusting, there were one or two others involved aswell. I had to try and discipline them and the mods weren't always very sympathetic. Infact one of my threads was locked by a mod who was clearly, to my mind, over-stepping his authority and siding with what had become a baying (unruly, unkempt, rude..need I go on) pack. Unfortunately this behaviour seemed to mirror the treatment the issue of the active status of Panaeolina Fonesecii had received at the hands of the wider academic mycological community aswell (it ain't over till "the fat lady sings" though is it fellas ?). However one expects some rough and tumble just remember if you are indescrimminate in your behaviour one-day someone's gonna rough and tumble back!


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"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""


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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Silverwolf]
    #5368461 - 03/05/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

We're all adults here (hopefully anyway).

If somebody is old enough to vote and drive a car they need to be able to take a little ridicule no matter how right or wrong they may be.

Thats too bad you got yelled at or whatever happened, but be the adult and vent your anger through the proper channels, its not like its hard to pick out somebody who dosent know what theyre talking about if youre right then anyone worth talking too is going to know too.


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