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offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind
#5364746 - 03/04/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Offensive postings at the Shroomery: speak your mind.
How does it affect you? What are your thoughts about it? How do you feel the Shroomery is affected, and what should the management do? At which point does freedom of speech end and does the right to be protected against noxious behavior take over? Please speak your mind freely and let's discuss the ins and outs of the matter.
Please do not name specific members, as this all too soon can turn into a flame war, and let's keep do this in the spirit of respectfulness of this forum.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364748 - 03/04/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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three letters. OTD
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: barto]
#5364752 - 03/04/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's the internet.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: barto]
#5364753 - 03/04/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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words on a page words on a page, thats what otd is for, to offend anyone and everyone with a weak mental constitution.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364758 - 03/04/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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being offended is a part of everyday life...
fucking live with it...
we are preparing you for the real world.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: fresh313]
#5364759 - 03/04/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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people who are offended by things on the internet offend me.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364761 - 03/04/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I try to ignore that stuff. The reason I come here is to socialize, help people, gain knowledge, etc.. so flaming and drama and all of that is a frustrating, annoying waste of my time to read.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: eris]
#5364764 - 03/04/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL I bet she had OTD on her mind when she posted this thread.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364765 - 03/04/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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IMO, I don't really care.
Just keep it out of the Pub. ODD takes care of itself.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Adden]
#5364792 - 03/04/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let's not turn this into a thread about OTD. Let's talk about the entire Shroomery except OTD, because if you read the disclaimer you know you're entering a potentially offensive place.
So let's discuss the *rest* of the Shroomery, but not OTD.
Oh and "she" is a he
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364824 - 03/04/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Wiccan_Seeker said: Oh and "she" is a he
Then choose a sex icon, so people will know.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364832 - 03/04/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nobody makes you read it .
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: HippieChick]
#5364842 - 03/04/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not bothered by any of it. I just remember which people make posts that I don't like and I tend not to read anything that they post.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364846 - 03/04/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364867 - 03/04/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Offensive posts have no place on the Shroomery, other than OTD.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364874 - 03/04/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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People need to learn that disagreement or bewilderment with a post is not offensive flaming.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Noetical]
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Redstorm]
#5364886 - 03/04/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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can anyone fill me in on what OTD is?
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Adden]
#5364891 - 03/04/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ODD takes care of itself.
Please elaborate. I've been here three years maybe, and the only that bothers me is when I see people disrespecting themselves. No offense, but maybe you guys are really sensitive. But please be patient with me, I have a medical condition that makes me bitter, and I guess I'm still a noob
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364896 - 03/04/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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it doesn't bother me at all. i have thick skin and i don't let message board comments effect my mood to much. personally i'd much rather post on a message board that actually reflects society (where there are rude and cynical people) than on some sort of watered down care bear version where people are forced to be nice to each other. that just seems a bit fake to me.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: MxIndustry]
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#5364899 - 03/04/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yea as far as letting anything people say on here actually get to me and put me in a bad mood or mindset, it doesn't bother me at all.
Nobody ever is really directly offensive to me anyways, and if they are, it is usually in a joking sort of way. But even if they were serious, I don't care... What people think of me IRl doesnt matter, so that's even moreso on the internet.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: schmutzen]
#5364934 - 03/04/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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there is a difference between speaking your mind and being offensive. why should anyone in any group whether it be on the internet or any other communication in volved being offensive? why would anyone choose to be offensive. there is a way to speak where one can clearly state their points of view and speak their mind without offending someone and this i believe should be peoples goal in life in general. Being offensive pushes people away. I don't believe that is what the shroomery was for. That at least wasn't how it seemed to me when i would wander onto this site every now and then. The offensive nature of most message boards is one of the reasons i started posting here. to get away from it. to be able to post something and just get honest feedback.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5364942 - 03/04/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It takes more energy to be offended by something than it does to ignore it. Why people choose the former is beyond me.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: deryl]
#5364966 - 03/04/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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deryl said: people who are offended by things on the internet offend me.
I'm of a similar opinion, but they don't offend me... I just pity them.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: TheDude]
#5364973 - 03/04/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree....
plus offensiveness is just some people's nature.... I don't think it is cool to be blantently rude and vulgar in forums where it isn't expected though. That's the stuff I'd toss in OTD.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: TheDude]
#5364979 - 03/04/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheDude said: It takes more energy to be offended by something than it does to ignore it. Why people choose the former is beyond me.
Perfect way of phrasing that, can't agree more!
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: mediman0078]
#5364989 - 03/04/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Forums offer a way to express opinions (relatively) anonymously. When polarized or controversial subject matter is discussed people are bounc to get a bit heated. That being said, there is a fine line between graciously "pwning" someone and being rude/offensive.
It seems to me that it's the moderator's job to decide when this line is crossed. In general, I (personally) would tend to lie on the more lenient side.
Also, I am definetly in favor of having a completely unmoderated section where "everything and anything goes". Just keep the insults and garbage in its respective place.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Aninator]
#5364999 - 03/04/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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"I don't think it is cool to be blantently rude and vulgar " <---- thats what i mean by being offensive. i love the humor in these threads. I don't really ever get offended by much said around the pub actually. I think the shroomery for the most part is just a comfortable place. it just does get annoying sometimes when you just want to converse with people and your can even truely have a discussion about something because people are just into slander and bashing. Like Phantasy Tour or something.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5365016 - 03/04/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I personally have no qualms with any posting styles on the board. Anyone who is offended by something posted is being selfish. Granted that it may be unpleasant to be flamed or insulted or stereotyped, there is no need to give it attention unless a person's safety is threatened.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: dblaney]
#5365021 - 03/04/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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offensiveness is subjective.. to the moderator
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5365075 - 03/04/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you don't let what people say make you feel bad, then how can people at the shroomery make you feel good? It's a two way street.
I would very much like to see this place be a community of friends, but there are some here who are not welcoming of new members, and there are some here who like to spew racism and hate.
Racism is evidence of profound ignorance. I'm not necessarily talking about those who feel their race is superior for whatever reason; the profoundly ignorant racist is the one who hates others for things which are beyond their control. Nobody can choose which race they are born into. The hateful racists are no better than the Nazis. They are a disgrace to our community. I am embarrassed for them. There are lots of different kinds of people, just as there are many kinds of mushrooms, the Shroomery is big enough for us all.
There are also those here who hate religion, or particular religions. Once again these folks display profound ignorance. For one to disagree is OK; for own to hate that which he does not understand is pure ignorance. 90+% of all great thinkers of all time have believed in God, yet there are those here who treat believers as if they are imbeciles. They demand that Atheism be be treated 50/50 against all religion ---Ignorance---. Atheism is but one religion among many. It would be just as ridiculous for Muslims, or Rastafarian's, or Catholics, or Satanists to demand half the resources of a forum.
There is a final point I would like to bring up. There are those here who are trying to hold onto some old (5-7 years ) concept of what the Shroomery is. This community is growing exponentially. It is mushrooming . Comparing what it was in the beginning with what it will be at maturity is like comparing a spore print with a massive flush of beautiful shrooms.
We are now setting pins. The members of this community must decide whether the colony will flourish and spread its spores to the ends of the earth, or if we will abort and remain a closed colony.
I have great hopes for the Shroomery. I hope we can get past these little little things which are holding us back.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: shroomydan]
#5365093 - 03/04/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like to post in the vets lounge. No offensive anyhing.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: shroomydan]
#5365112 - 03/04/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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For one to disagree is OK; for own to hate that which he does not understand is pure ignorance.
What if one understands it, yet hates it still?
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Redstorm]
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: RESTLESS]
#5365174 - 03/04/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: mediman0078]
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: RESTLESS]
#5365181 - 03/04/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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<---- woo woo... just 4 u!
OK , i'm done now.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: mediman0078]
#5365186 - 03/04/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I still got a little bit left in me..
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: shroomydan]
#5365227 - 03/04/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think you put it the best way. I completely agree with you.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Redstorm]
#5365251 - 03/04/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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For one to disagree is OK; for own to hate that which he does not understand is pure ignorance.
What if one understands it, yet hates it still?
Even so there is a way to hate something and express it in a civil inoffensive tone and language. I think you're always free to feel how you feel as long as you back it up and have grounded reason for it. Either way you have to deal with it and accept it becuase there are always going to be things to hate or disagree in life. you can either chose to have a hatred for it or you could learn to just accept the fact that we are in a world of infinite nature in everyway shape and form. That making, for me, what is so beautiful about the world. i'd rather just have my own educated opinions about things, and be open to hearing different arguments and figuring out how I feel. I dunno i just think when you are blatantly mean and offensive and exclusive it doesn't serve any good to anyone. I believe that we should all try to accept our differences and our different beliefs and continue on as friends. Not to make fun of, push away and comepletely bash or belittle each other for having a different point of view. Get off your ego trip and realize that your opinions and feelings are no more valid that anyone elses. We all percieve things in different ways and we're all in turn different people but no one is better than the other. You assume the arogant concieted role by behaving this way.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5365273 - 03/04/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only offensive thing on the boards is biased moderating. Too often things are left to slide for one member that another would get punished for.
If you take internet words to heart you probably need help functioning in real life. Realize people have different opinions, learn how to articulate yours, and you'll be good.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5365291 - 03/04/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chill the fuck out.
There isn't an issue here as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Adom]
#5365308 - 03/04/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5365314 - 03/04/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: At which point does freedom of speech end and does the right to be protected against noxious behavior take over?
There are no lines, and if there are, they should be crossed immediately.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: HippieChick]
#5365326 - 03/04/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: daimyo]
#5365327 - 03/04/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: shroomydan]
#5365329 - 03/04/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomydan said: 90+% of all great thinkers of all time have believed in God
Haha, no they didn't. Actually, this is foolish to even attempt to argue, considering there is no objective criteria for what makes a "great thinker." Since you believe in God, most of the thinkers that you think are great probably did believe in God, because most people tend to read and appreciate others in whom their own beliefs are reflected.
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daimyo
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5365345 - 03/04/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: How does it affect you?
It doesn't. I don't think I've ever been offended by a post, but if I were I'd ask myself why, and try to change for the better.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: What are your thoughts about it?
People fear what they do not understand. Ignorance breeds contempt.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: How do you feel the Shroomery is affected, and what should the management do?
I think the Shroomery is positively affected. Every time someone is offended it forces them to look at the reason. Hopefully this will in turn help them understand that people have differing views, and allow them to be more accepting of others.
The management should encourage this, and certainly not reprimand it.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: At which point does freedom of speech end and does the right to be protected against noxious behavior take over?
You're not American are you?
None of what I said applies to blatant flaming(OTD works fine for that). That just dumbs down the forums and will certainly ruin the site if allowed.
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Edited by daimyo (03/04/06 06:22 PM)
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Noetical
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: daimyo]
#5365417 - 03/04/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.
That is not a good idea.
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mediman0078
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Noetical]
#5367105 - 03/05/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Noetic Hogan Nip said:
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daimyo said: I think the Pub mods are considering turning this place into a "sanitized" zone. Something along the lines of MR&P.
That is not a good idea.
<-------none of that please. I like it the way it is.... over moderating it would make it NOT FUN.... i still think blatant offensive attacks on people should be dumped in OTD, but don't start wholesale editing of the Pub.
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Herbus
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: mediman0078]
#5367191 - 03/05/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I say hooray for Freedom of Speech...
It would probably be more effective to enforce a policy of discouragement (by masses of people), rather than ban somebody... unless it is very direct, very malicious, and having occured several times.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Herbus]
#5367284 - 03/05/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't like pictures of helpless animals being tortured. The only time I thought shit was a little over the line, but its my fault for strolling through that particular thread. I cast no blame or anger at anyone for posting anything. As a person chooses to live, let him be, if it no harms me.
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5368176 - 03/05/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seriously... I hate that Japanese girl now.
I mean really hate her, too.
If I met her, I'd feel very compelled to kick her ass.
If you're a girl, and you squish a cute little kitten with your high heel... you pretty much undergo a sex change as far as rules of engagement go...
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deryl
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Herbus]
#5368320 - 03/05/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would really hate to see a bunch of restrictions placed in a forum like this. I don't see any possible benefit of enacting new rules on top of the personal discretion of the moderators.
placing a bunch of restrictions on people is only going to bring about a bunch of drama that could be easily avoided by just telling people to take everything they read on the internet with a grain of salt.
it's really not complicated.
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duggan18
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Asante]
#5368348 - 03/05/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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not much flaming on these boards, i like it.
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Silverwolf
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: deryl]
#5368378 - 03/05/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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deryl said: I would really hate to see a bunch of restrictions placed in a forum like this. I don't see any possible benefit of enacting new rules on top of the personal discretion of the moderators.
placing a bunch of restrictions on people is only going to bring about a bunch of drama that could be easily avoided by just telling people to take everything they read on the internet with a grain of salt.
it's really not complicated.
Yeah well the treatment I received (one of my own countrymen god-dammit !) from one individual -he knows knows who he is, although no-one's seen him for a while so he may not read this- onsite was f****ing disgusting, there were one or two others involved aswell. I had to try and discipline them and the mods weren't always very sympathetic. Infact one of my threads was locked by a mod who was clearly, to my mind, over-stepping his authority and siding with what had become a baying (unruly, unkempt, rude..need I go on) pack. Unfortunately this behaviour seemed to mirror the treatment the issue of the active status of Panaeolina Fonesecii had received at the hands of the wider academic mycological community aswell (it ain't over till "the fat lady sings" though is it fellas ?). However one expects some rough and tumble just remember if you are indescrimminate in your behaviour one-day someone's gonna rough and tumble back!
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Edited by Silverwolf (03/05/06 07:27 PM)
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deryl
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Re: offensive postings at the Shroomery -- speak your mind [Re: Silverwolf]
#5368461 - 03/05/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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We're all adults here (hopefully anyway).
If somebody is old enough to vote and drive a car they need to be able to take a little ridicule no matter how right or wrong they may be.
Thats too bad you got yelled at or whatever happened, but be the adult and vent your anger through the proper channels, its not like its hard to pick out somebody who dosent know what theyre talking about if youre right then anyone worth talking too is going to know too.
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