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Is kratom really anything like an opiate?
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one of my favorite kinds of highs is the kind I get from hydrocodone or other types of opiates. I was wondering if kratom is anything like this. I've read comparisons but is it even near as euphoric?

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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: Ten_Percenter]
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kratom CAN produce affects very similar to hydrocodone.
i felt like i had to get "lucky" to get anything at all from kratom.
my first time was the best and most pleasant, after that it was shit.

ive done kratom 5 times with 10 grams of "premium comercial" each time.
drinking the tea is maybe one of the most horrible things ive ever forced myself to do. the taste is just completely disgusting. i gag at least 2 or 3 times just trying to get the shit down.

even if i do get any good affect from kratom the tea makes my stomach so fucked that all i can do is lay on the couch and hope it will be over soon. if i get up il puke.

so im pretty much done trying to fuck with kratom. i would possibly try an extract someday but from what people have told me the extrtacs are not worth the money.


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: A0999]
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Sorry to hear that :frown:

Kratom can definately center me like nothing else, I have gotten extreme euphoria, CEVs and really good nods without nausia off from the old stuff.  I wish it was still available, I'm hesitant to try the new products too for the same reason.


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: schmutzen]
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I dont get much from kratom, i have given up this herb,, i have bought leafs and extracts from several vendors and the results has always been the same, little effects and some stomach discomfort so i have given up this herb.

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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: shriek]
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I mix the straight powder with honey, drink some highly caffienated coffee and smoke some herb. I've heard some just don't get anything (shrugs shoulders) night time doses are much better than daytime IMO. I also use ginger to ease the stomach.


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: schmutzen]
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I also got nothing but nausea and constipation from krathom.

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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: expandurmind]
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What was your method of preparation(s) and what type of leaf were you working with? 

Some people do get blazed on this stuff, I really don't know why it doesn't work for you :frown:


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: schmutzen]
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namaste said:
the old stuff.  I wish it was still available, I'm hesitant to try the new products too for the same reason.


I don't specifically know what you mean by the "old stuff" but I thought I'd let you know that I've been extremely pleased with the "premium commercial" from shamanspalace.  It's just plain leaf and for the money it's the best, imo. :smile:


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: 33L]
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The old stuff being commercial, premium, and super premium. Now its premium commercial and 15x. My friend has some of the new premium commercial from SP, I think I will give it go before I make any more wild asumptions. What is your dosage? Do you make a tea or eat it straight?


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: schmutzen]
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namaste said:
The old stuff being commercial, premium, and super premium. Now its premium commercial and 15x. My friend has some of the new premium commercial from SP, I think I will give it go before I make any more wild asumptions. What is your dosage? Do you make a tea or eat it straight?


my experience is that eating the powder does nothing.
i think this stuff needs to be boiled then drank, still containing the powder.


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: A0999]
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anarchist0999 said:
my experience is that eating the powder does nothing.
i think this stuff needs to be boiled then drank, still containing the powder.


Yea same here. And the stuff has to be done strictly in moderation. The tolerance gain is rediculous, so you should do it every other day in order to get your moneys worth.

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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: Jon]
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Jon said:
anarchist0999 said:
my experience is that eating the powder does nothing.
i think this stuff needs to be boiled then drank, still containing the powder.


Yea same here. And the stuff has to be done strictly in moderation. The tolerance gain is rediculous, so you should do it every other day in order to get your moneys worth.



is that a dns3500 in you avatar?


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? *DELETED* [Re: A0999]
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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: A0999]
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anarchist0999 said:
Jon said:
anarchist0999 said:
my experience is that eating the powder does nothing.
i think this stuff needs to be boiled then drank, still containing the powder.


Yea same here. And the stuff has to be done strictly in moderation. The tolerance gain is rediculous, so you should do it every other day in order to get your moneys worth.



is that a dns3500 in you avatar?


Yes it is a DNS3500. Unfortunately I only own one, those things are damn expensive.

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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: Jon]
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I can find a similarity with kratom and opium.
One is banned and the other will be banned from junkies' abuse eventualy.


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: Jon]
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Jon said:
anarchist0999 said:
Jon said:
anarchist0999 said:
my experience is that eating the powder does nothing.
i think this stuff needs to be boiled then drank, still containing the powder.


Yea same here. And the stuff has to be done strictly in moderation. The tolerance gain is rediculous, so you should do it every other day in order to get your moneys worth.



is that a dns3500 in you avatar?


Yes it is a DNS3500. Unfortunately I only own one, those things are damn expensive.


lol i know what u mean. i just sold my turntables to convert to all digital.
i only have one pioneer cdj-100 atm, they dont cost near as much as the sc3500 but still im broke enough to not be able to afford another one right now  :grin:


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: poboy]
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poboy said:
Just powder the leaf and put it in capsules .No you dont have to make tea or cook in any way.Cap it up.No bad taste.Strong effect= :<)



and that actually works for you?


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: A0999]
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I have some kratom available from my own plants if anyone is interested. $5 for 1/2 oz sent anywhere in USA. I can vouch for the fact that no pesticides were used on it. That's more than you can say about most commercial stuff.


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Re: Is kratom really anything like an opiate? [Re: poboy]
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I talked my friend out of nine grams of the new 'commercial premium' is this a reasonable dose? I was planning to grind to powder, mix with honey, and down some hot coffee as that's how I usually go about it.


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