hairyicecreamman said:

The waters maintained their crest over the earth for one hundred and fifty days. And then God REMEMBERED Noah and all the animals, wild and tame, that were with him in the ark.

Does that sentence not sound like God had better things to do? Now im not a bible scholar in any way but i was hoping someone would reply with an opinion to make me better understand. In what i have read from the Bible, it just always seems like God is unhappy with his creations.

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If God is so loving why does he allow people to be tortured who never had a chance to know him? By that I'm talking about people in other countries that don't have any knowledge of God. They are doomed to eternal death and for what?

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The bible talks about Heaven, Hell, and Pergatory. The Angellic Court resides in heaven, damned souls in hell, and christians in pergatory. I don't want an afterlife of Nothingness. I wasn't given an oppurtunity to do something great under the lord's name to be part of the Angellic Court. Why should I not be allowed to cross the gates of heaven? The more i read the bible, the more my love for God changes to Fear.

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Theido said:

iwm You do have a pretty crazy view on Christ if you cry out about  atrocities caused by HIM, and that "the fondest wish of his heart and all those closest to him" was to "kill yourself goyim dog" Comparing him to Osama bin Laden like he was some kind of a terrorist leader!!! Where on earth have you have you ripped these ideas??

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If you at least leaf through the Gospels with the teachings of Christ you could for sure drop those accusations. The teachings of love and of good will towards other people is pretty unique! And this for sure can not be denied.

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And your knowledge of history doesn't seem to be that academic. Rome controlled all of Palestine during the time of Christ. And if you are thinking of Neros attack on Palestine, it was because of a Jewish revolt. The reason why Christians were persecuted was because they wouldnt bow down to the emperor and worship him as a god (which was a law in rome)

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It is not in any way unique, the buddah taught much the same 600 years b.c. Where is your "academic" understanding? Much of not all the mythology in the bible was ripped and then distorted for political reasons from much older sources. Mostly to wipe the masses into a racist frenzy to murder their neighbors and steal their land.

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It it true that Saul/Paul had a leading part in killings etc. but not of his fellow Jews, but Christians. Saul was a member of the learned "pharisees" and hated Christians because he thought that they were a threat toward his society. And what do think you prove by stating that he was a Roman citizen? In fact many Jews and other ethnic peoples with some power (doctors politicians etc..) were granted Roman citizenship. And it is thought that Paul died by beheading or in Nero?s persecutions. Mad in a jail? what source?

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He CLAIMED to be a pharisee then why did he and his family earn their livings making tents? An obvious lie. Saul had some kind of mental problem like epilepsy. The Jews were scared to death of him because it was a sign of demon possession. He got back at them by working for the Romans.

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You also stated that Chistianity "held back medical and other science" Well to begin with there WAS no medical science or such after ~300-400 AD. Most of the knowledge died in various wars and such between Rome and Vandals, Visigoths etc.. which were caused by the great ?"migration" of the Mongols. The same degrading of knowledge has happened everywhere in the word throughout history. Ancient India was rich with medical knowledge abou surgery, medication and on the body. All of it was lost in the conquests of Scythian and Greek and Arabian conquerers. Buddhism had killed surgery, because it was seen as mutilating the body and thus forbidden.

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Ever hear of The Dark Ages? Who held back learning then? The Roman catholic church. They were even so insane as to forbid the reading of the scriptures lest the priests be caught in one of their many lies and gross distortions!

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I understand that you and many other people have bad blood against many things that have happened during the history, but to flame without proving ones claim is pretty childish and lame.

Theido

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In one4 breath you claim to understand and then immediately call me childish and lame, demanding proof as if this were some kind of seminar on the history of religion. These are my opinions, based upon YEARS of unique research into redaction and form criticism, which time and space hardly allows me to impart to you while standing on one foot. If I have bad blood, as you call it, it is because the people who should have been looking out for my best interest, my parent, the school system, the religious community ect. instead were to lazy and/or corrupt to give me the hard truth. They found it easier to crush my inquisitiveness and natural reasoning ability and force me into being the perfect little consumer drone/ cannon fodder for corporate profits. Like Janet Jacksons say: "Now I'm all grown up and I'm taking control" of my life and destiny and fuck everything that gets in my way. I'm on a rampage and I'm gonna chip away at this disgraceful wall of BS as fast as my little hammer can go. Take it or leave it.