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just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL
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I think it was the second song of tales of the inexpressible. bad way to use this music :thumbdown:

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: stefan]
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wow, what a sell-out.

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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What commercial was it? I've never even heard a shpongle track.


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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
wow, what a sell-out.


What a humongous leap to a conclusion.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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who gives a shit if shpongle was in a commercial. they are done making music. Simon Posford and Raja Ram have made three albums together and their latest release was Nothing Lasts but Nothing is Lost... hmm think their saying something. These two individuals have made some of the best music i've ever heard so i fine with them making some bank from it. and you gotta respect them because they only let their music be used in such ways after they finished the project. so you know the money aspect had nothing to do with the music itself.


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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I have little respect for those who agree to have their music in commericals - particularly those who hold "psychedelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses. What a contradiction...

What did Bill Hicks say about those who do a commerical, again?

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Dimmy]
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so you know the money aspect had nothing to do with the music itself.


I highly doubt that.

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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One of Shpongles songs have a guitar track that is in several different songs. I believe it's a hispanic folk song on guitar or something, which they used and added other things around it. Maybe that was it, it's on a soccer video game I used to have before I heard the shpongle song.

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
I have little respect for those who agree to have their music in commericals - particularly those who hold "psychedelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses. What a contradiction...

What did Bill Hicks say about those who do a commerical, again?


Then how do you go about Boards of Canada selling out to Nissan?

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
I have little respect for those who agree to have their music in commericals - particularly those who hold "psychedelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses. What a contradiction...

What did Bill Hicks say about those who do a commerical, again?


"psychelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses does not nessacerily mean that making a little bit of money from one of your songs is a bad thing. if you bought the cd its the same thing, they sold there songs to make money. its what we call "making a living"

also bill hicks is just a dude, its probably not a good idea to follow everything he says in life...


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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
I have little respect for those who agree to have their music in commericals - particularly those who hold "psychedelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses. What a contradiction...

What did Bill Hicks say about those who do a commerical, again?


Something about how they lose any right to call themselfs artists. He'd probably add something nice like now they suck on the devils cock too.


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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: ivi]
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pretty lame, but I am still a fan.

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: guri]
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guri said:
bi0 said:
I have little respect for those who agree to have their music in commericals - particularly those who hold "psychedelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses. What a contradiction...

What did Bill Hicks say about those who do a commerical, again?


"psychelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses does not nessacerily mean that making a little bit of money from one of your songs is a bad thing. if you bought the cd its the same thing, they sold there songs to make money. its what we call "making a living"

also bill hicks is just a dude, its probably not a good idea to follow everything he says in life...


Yes.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: guri]
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"psychelic" and "mind-expansion" pretenses does not nessacerily mean that making a little bit of money from one of your songs is a bad thing


I have no problems with people making money - never said I did. Nor did I say that selling your music to a commerical is "bad" - I just think it makes you a sell-out - just another example of counter culture being absorbed and assimilated by mainstream culture.

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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So there's no middle-ground, in your mind? That's too bad.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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what would be the middle ground you speak of? You either agree to assimilate or you do not.

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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This is the kind of divisive, dualistic thinking that I attempt to avoid. I believe you can have each foot in a different world, as long as you maintain a healthy balance.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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...such as? what is the middle ground?

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: Vvellum]
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The middle ground doesn't necessarily exist...I'm just saying you're dividing it up like..once you sell your music to be in a commerical, you have officially sold out. I dunno about that...I mean..what commerical was it seen in? That wasn't even answered. Even artists, with "dignity" and "purpose" are entitled to make money however they can..


Also, who's to say it was Simon Posford's decision? it could have been his record label, or an American distributor with rights to his music in the US.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: just heard a part of a shpongle track in a TV-COMMERCIAL [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I would also like to know what commerical.

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Even artists, with "dignity" and "purpose" are entitled to make money however they can..


Sure, they can do whatever they want. But that doesnt mean I should respect them or not consider them assimilation-fodder.

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Also, who's to say it was Simon Posford's decision? it could have been his record label, or an American distributor with rights to his music in the US.


The artist agreed to such a contract that would allow such marketing licensing, so they are ultimately responsible.

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