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OfflineRedFluX
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Classical and Jazz
    #458926 - 11/15/01 04:03 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Hey there, first post here, i'd like to say that shroomery.org rules, and i love reading what everyone has to say...i've shroomed once (more trips to come ;O)and smoke a lot of weed
ANYWAYS, when i shroomed, i listened to lots of different types of music, and it may be because i'm a classical musician but classical music and jazz really had the biggest impact on me.

I thought i'd take the time to reccommend some music if anyoen is interested, i'll just name a few pieces that come to mind that have (or will have) a very powerful effect on me and hopefully others..dont forget to turn this shit up, it needs to be loud ;)

Classical:
Barber - adagio for strings (can make me cry sober)
SIbelius - finlandia (this will rock you!!!)
Stravinksy - rite of spring and firebird suite
Orff - carmena burana
SIbelius - finlandia
Dvorak - symphony no. 9 "the new world" (2nd movement is so beautiful)
Beethoven - piano sonatas - moonlight, appasionata, pathetique, waldstein...symphonies 5, 6, and 9
Grieg - in the hall of the mountain king
Mussorgsky - night on bald mountain
Chopin - any ballades
Gershwin - rhapsody in blue, 2nd rhapsody for piano
Shostakovich - piano concerto No. 1, festive overture
Rimsy-Korsakov - scheherazade, cappricio espagnole

Jazz:
John Coltrane - albums: my favorite things, blue train, gentle side of coltrane...get the song: Naima
Miles Davis - albums: kind of blue, sketches of spain, birth of the cool
Dave Brubeck - albums: time out
Bill Evans: anything

let me know if you guys want some more, i've got much more music to suggest, but those are the first that come to mind that would probably be most enjoyable on a trip...give it a shot, these guys aren't considered the biggest musical geniuses to ever live for nothing

Safe tripping



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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: RedFluX]
    #459052 - 11/15/01 09:11 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

I can personally testify on the Miles Davis "kind of blue" and i agree on the "birth of the cool"


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: RedFluX]
    #459142 - 11/15/01 11:17 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Kind of Blue by Miles Davis is the greatest jazz music ever recorded. But if you really want Miles to enhance a trip, put on his Bitches Brew double album. It's a real motherfucker.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: RedFluX]
    #459223 - 11/15/01 01:02 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

i like Chuck mangeonie. Ottmar liebert, Also Spyro Gyra and Keiko Matsui.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #459353 - 11/15/01 03:37 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Im listening to Miles Davis- Dark Magus right now...You have to hear this shit, its bloody awesome! I reccomend it.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: TheCaptain]
    #459429 - 11/15/01 05:00 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I have to agree miles davis is fantastic while shrooming

Karen


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: Karen]
    #459469 - 11/15/01 05:28 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Miles Davis made tons great music, but you cant limit it to Kind Of Blue and Birth of the Cool man. I have been studying his music for several years now, and have grown to appreciate and love all of it. I agree, listen to "Bitches Brew" it is revolutionary and something most people have never ever heard. I would also suggest listening to John Coltrane's Giant Steps, melodically it will blow your mind...Especially when you are tripping. Lester Young, Herbie Hancock (except for his disco shit), Cannonball Adderly, Tony Williams (you can listen to Tony on lots of Miles' stuff, Miles introduced him to the scene), Jimmy McGriff, listen to it all. All incredibly jazz musicians, and wonderful to study while tripping. It's unfortunate jazz seems to have been forgotten by the majority of people.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: NeiL]
    #460145 - 11/16/01 06:25 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Dont get me started on miles davis, i have about 24 albums of his, i could go on, i was just suggesting a few titles....and beethoven and bach? oh lord....i really suggest you try at least a couple of the classical pieces stoned or trippin, wont hurt to try and im prettty sure you'll enjoy it.

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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: RedFluX]
    #460423 - 11/16/01 01:54 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I too love Bach and Beehtoven. If you want a great suggestion pick up some Bach arrangments by a project called the swingle singers, they have been around for years. They are acapella, well for the most part. They have taken Bach's melodies and put a rhythm section behind it. Dude the shit is sweet. Download "jazz sebastian Bach" by the swingle singers, I promise you will be very very pleased. The Swingle Singers have been around since the sixties.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: conphormant]
    #1795756 - 08/09/03 05:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of people go on and on about Miles Davis(not undeservedly either) without ever acknowledging the stellar cast of supporting musicians he had to work with, especially imo in the L8 60's to mid 70's people like Herbie Hancock, Mahavishnu John Mclaughlin, Keith Jarrett, Chick Corea, Joesef Zawinul etc......then there were his sax players, Sonny Fortune,Wayne Shorter, Dave Liebman, Carlos Garnett......his drummers were amongst the best as well:Tony Williams, Jack Dejohnette, Billy Cobham etc, most of these people formed their own bands after their apprenticeship with miles, check them/it out, lots of cool stuff :smile: 


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #1795814 - 08/09/03 05:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

naima is absolutely beautiful... I agree with your jazz and classical selections, as i am a jazz and classical musician myself :smile:


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: conphormant]
    #1797515 - 08/10/03 08:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yes i'm glad to see that we're all of the right mind that Miles is God like when it comes to trippin'.
If you've not yet heard it i would suggest the "On The Corner" c.d. A heavy funk collection. I'm also a big fan of Django Reinhert when beshroomed an'all.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: SummerBreeze]
    #1797760 - 08/10/03 11:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Now this is a great thread :smile: I love Coltrane's later work especially, the 4 cd 'Live in Japan' is a personal favorite. 'Ezzthetics' by George Russell is maybe not widely known, but not too obscure and a really great disc.
I love the ECM label stuff, particularly the 1970's releases, early Chick Corea stuff on that label is great, as are the many Dave Holland releases (check out 'Confrence of the Birds' or the live 'Circle' recording wit Dave, Chick, Barry Altschul, and Anthony Braxton on reeds).
Oregon is another band worth mentioning, emerging out of the Paul Winter Consort in the late '60's, and their '70's releases are especially great. Ralph Towner is an awesome guitarist, although his creative peak appears to have been back then; I'd strongly recommend 'Solo Concert' from 1980 by Ralph, very inspired composition and playing and a great reference tool for acoustic/classical guitarists as regards counterpoint.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: RedFluX]
    #1798964 - 08/10/03 07:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It's all about the Mahavishnu Orchestra. I really love those guys.


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Re: Classical and Jazz [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1799018 - 08/10/03 07:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Winter Light, the 1974 album by Oregon was my personal fav, i also LOVED those early to L8 70's ECM recordings(Terje Rypdal, eberhard weber, keith jarrett, gary burton, bill connors etc) immensley, i think you may have been the first person i have seen at the Shroomery to draw attention to that pariticular genre........"jazz-classical" fusion or whatever lol.......and as far as Mahavishnu orchesta, definitel! if it weren't for a lot of internecine bickering(mainly between jan hammer and bic mac himself) that band COULD have been the beatles of fusion music over an extended period of time, no lie!


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