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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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those home erectus must have had some wicked labs back then to prove this

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
I did take those course and was sent to a private, religious school. The combination of history, theology and philosophy on top of an engineering PhD education means I can argue any point you want. You perspective is so limited to what you've been exposed to. What do you think Jews or Muslims believe? Billions of people have it wrong and you've got the proof.



You went to a private religious school that means your education was tainted by the beliefs of the people who taught you and your education lacks objectivity. your education amounts to absolutely nothing and you would be laughed at at any serious school whose teaching are derived from science and objective learning. and yes the Jews Muslims and Cristian's are all wrong thats the reason why they are always killing each other over their stupid beliefs i really wish you would all kill each other off then the small intelligent portion of the population can get on with living and we might have "Heaven on earth"

Edited by lowdominion (08/26/05 08:37 PM)

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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You went to a private religious school that means your education was tainted by the beliefs of the people who taught you and your education lacks objectivity. your education amounts to absolutely nothing and you would be laughed at at any serious school whose teaching are derived from science and objective learning. and yes the Jews Muslims and Cristian's are all wrong thats the reason why they are always killing each other over their stupid beliefs i really wish you would all kill each other off then the small intelligent portion of the population can get on with living and we might have "Heaven on earth"



dont you see... you, and your "intelligent portion of the pop." are fighting with he the christian defender. You are fighting just like the muslims and christians do.


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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
"that Amino acids could have been produced on Earth 2 billion years ago this has been proven in the labratory" are you serious?



Yes this has been proven although you probably did not learn about it because of course you were in a religous school so they would not teach it because this would go against their beliefs and that is why your education does not amount to a hill of crap try picking about a real science text book you will be suprised what you can learn when your education is not filtered by the people who are supposed to be teaching you

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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um, yeah, when I was a child, I went to a religious school. Some of us have matured in the 20 years since then and have been further educated to be able make their own decisions. Before you judge me, you should at least get my opinion, that would take some maturity.

I don't go to church, haven't in years, I think it's for weakminded people that need to worship a pastor/priest and pay money to feel good about their petty "sins". I read the bible (old testament) because I think it is an uplifting, moral document with good lesson in how to live my life. I'm intrigued by similiarities between the bible and other books from the Near East from the same time period. Then adding history and politics in there, it's an interesting story.

I think that people that argue creation and evolution are arguing to rationalize/legitimize their ignorance. Anyone that has any proof should have kept their mouth shut in the first place because they don't know what they are talking about.

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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
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You went to a private religious school that means your education was tainted by the beliefs of the people who taught you and your education lacks objectivity. your education amounts to absolutely nothing and you would be laughed at at any serious school whose teaching are derived from science and objective learning. and yes the Jews Muslims and Cristian's are all wrong thats the reason why they are always killing each other over their stupid beliefs i really wish you would all kill each other off then the small intelligent portion of the population can get on with living and we might have "Heaven on earth"



dont you see... you, and your "intelligent portion of the pop." are fighting with he the christian defender. You are fighting just like the muslims and christians do.



I have never taken up arms to prove my ideas but history is filled with jews muslims and cristians killing each other and anyone else who did not believe them

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
I read the bible (old testament) because I think it is an uplifting, moral document with good lesson in how to live my life.



haha seriously?
i think new testament is very uplifting but old? its all rules and the wrath of god and stuff....

i personally liked the things Jesus said in the new test.

thats just me though


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"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
I think that people that argue creation and evolution are arguing to rationalize/legitimize their ignorance.  Anyone that has any proof should have kept their mouth shut in the first place because they don't know what they are talking about.



:lol: you are a moron the proof is out there you just choose not to look or ignore it

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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jews, christians, muslims, buddhists, "atheists" (whatever is the general term), etc... the list goes on and on. but you've got proof of the big bang and evolution from magical amino acid.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Jews and Muslims are mostly the same as Christians; I don't think anyone's really denying this. Even the Muslims admit it in the Qu'ran, saying Jesus is a prophet of Allah and such.

But that still doesn't mean it doesn't require complete and utter faith. Science has evidence; we can test it out, we can observe it. We can't directly test evolution on a massive scale yet, only see primitive viruses responding to medicines because we live such a short time in comparison to these long processes, but we can indirectly look at genetics, cells, other life and similarities, and make a strong theory that can explain every one of those things and biology as a whole. Or we can throw our hands up in the air, say, "It's the Divine's will that nothing is true!" and start praying.


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Re: I have decided [Re: Help on the Way]
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Slipknot420 said:
Nashbar said:
I read the bible (old testament) because I think it is an uplifting, moral document with good lesson in how to live my life. 



haha seriously?
i think new testament is very uplifting but old?  its all rules and the wrath of god and stuff....

i personally liked the things Jesus said in the new test.

thats just me though



how about when god destroys two cities because they chose not to do what he says thats both moral and uplifting i guess

or when he tortures Job to prove a point to the devil that made me feel so good about myself:lol:

Edited by lowdominion (08/26/05 08:53 PM)

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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I'd like to try to live a decent life than be a fuck up because all is forgiven someday. not that I try very hard obviously

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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There are spiritual people who beleive in a greater presance, then there are scientific people who beleive in molecules and cells. The two cant argue religion because they will run loops around eachother forever.

impossible debate here


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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
There are spiritual people who beleive in a greater presance, then there are scientific people who beleive in molecules and cells. The two cant argue religion because they will run loops around eachother forever.

impossible debate here



agreed :thumbup:

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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yeah, God spare the pius and burned the fuck out of the wicked. Some people get tested, everyone has hard times, I didn't read anywhere in the bible where it talked about life being easy or fun.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
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this is nothing new, read a fucking book or some website about it.  thousands of years of this debate, how many people come along and say they've got it figured out?  I never said what I believe or argued any point, it's a mute point.  There is no answer and there is no conclusion and there certainly is no proof for either side.  Just shows peoples ignorance for opening there dumbass mouths.



lowdominion said:
XUL said:
There are spiritual people who beleive in a greater presance, then there are scientific people who beleive in molecules and cells. The two cant argue religion because they will run loops around eachother forever.

impossible debate here



agreed :thumbup:



wow, couldn't have said it better myself.

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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
There are spiritual people who beleive in a greater presance, then there are scientific people who beleive in molecules and cells. The two cant argue religion because they will run loops around eachother forever.

impossible debate here



and then there are people who believe in both.
like hmmm .... einstien
but the difference is...look in a microscope and you have proof positive of a cell

science people at least have some sort of evidence on their side
religious people dont have jack shit except their own blind beliefs that they refuse to even consider the possibility of being wrong.


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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