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Re: I have decided [Re: Help on the Way]
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just suggesting possible sources for more information for you. sorry I couldn't think of any others off the top of my head, I'm not sober.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Help on the Way]
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religion isnt about knowing, its about belief. Christianity, you got the bible as a guide and it explains everything. Some of the stories in there seem bogus, but u gotta think, a book that old has probly been changed alot, or misunderstood and then written down wrong in translations, maybe thats why we have so many types of Christians, I dunno. Christianity IMO makes more sense then the damn big bang theory.... I mean.. If people can have out of body experiences and intense spiritual experiences on mushrooms, then I think Christianity is just as possible.

And anyway,.. I mean think about it, all you have to do is beleive, pray, be a good person, and every once in a while give into some self sacrafice, and you get into heaven. I mean, thats like the best deal ive ever heard. I mean u gott nothin to lose. If you beleive in God when you die, then you will go to heaven, if you dont then you wont go to heaven. Id rather take my chances beleiving.

but thats just my opinion :thumbup:


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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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so you say you believe something for no other reason than you think there is some mythical place you go when you die and if you follow some dogmatic ideas and rules detailing how to live and think you will get in......what a crock of shit

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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hey watever floats your boat man.

but im goin with it :thumbup:


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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
religion isnt about knowing, its about belief. Christianity, you got the bible as a guide and it explains everything. Some of the stories in there seem bogus, but u gotta think, a book that old has probly been changed alot, or misunderstood and then written down wrong in translations, maybe thats why we have so many types of Christians, I dunno. Christianity IMO makes more sense then the damn big bang theory.... I mean.. If people can have out of body experiences and intense spiritual experiences on mushrooms, then I think Christianity is just as possible.

And anyway,.. I mean think about it, all you have to do is beleive, pray, be a good person, and every once in a while give into some self sacrafice, and you get into heaven. I mean, thats like the best deal ive ever heard. I mean u gott nothin to lose. If you beleive in God when you die, then you will go to heaven, if you dont then you wont go to heaven. Id rather take my chances beleiving.

but thats just my opinion :thumbup:


wow, well put...

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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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hey to each his own i just prefer ideas that can be backed up with real data and results that can be verified with experimentation like the Big Bang Theory

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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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you sure are

i bet it will be fun spending eternity in heaven jerking off as you watch down on the eternal suffering in hell which has to exist in your dual natured reality

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
XUL said:
religion isnt about knowing, its about belief. Christianity, you got the bible as a guide and it explains everything. Some of the stories in there seem bogus, but u gotta think, a book that old has probly been changed alot, or misunderstood and then written down wrong in translations, maybe thats why we have so many types of Christians, I dunno. Christianity IMO makes more sense then the damn big bang theory.... I mean.. If people can have out of body experiences and intense spiritual experiences on mushrooms, then I think Christianity is just as possible.

And anyway,.. I mean think about it, all you have to do is beleive, pray, be a good person, and every once in a while give into some self sacrafice, and you get into heaven. I mean, thats like the best deal ive ever heard. I mean u gott nothin to lose. If you beleive in God when you die, then you will go to heaven, if you dont then you wont go to heaven. Id rather take my chances beleiving.

but thats just my opinion :thumbup:


wow, well put...


are you serious

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Re: I have decided [Re: Help on the Way]
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Slipknot420 said:
that all religion is total bullshit that perpetuates ignorance, a good majority of religious people are blind followers, and that 99% of this planet is completely insane.

Aaaaaaaaa i cant take it!!!!!  seriously what the fuck is wrong with everybody on this planet?!?!?


You are now ready for S&P. Welcome :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: I have decided [Re: faslimy]
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i bet it will be fun spending eternity in heaven jerking off as you watch down on the eternal suffering in hell which has to exist in your dual natured reality


hell yiiiiiiaaa


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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
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i bet it will be fun spending eternity in heaven jerking off as you watch down on the eternal suffering in hell which has to exist in your dual natured reality


hell yiiiiiiaaa


your one of those god hates fags people aren't you

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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your one of those god hates fags people aren't you


no, I support gay relation ships. I mean.. it might be wrong in christianity, but this is a free country isnt it? choose your own destiny, I dont give a flying F


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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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the proven "big bang theory"??? are you serious?

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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
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your one of those god hates fags people aren't you


no, I support gay relation ships. I mean.. it might be wrong in Christianity, but this is a free country isn't it? choose your own destiny, I dont give a flying F


Then according to your beliefs you are going to hell. Because you chose to have your ideas predigested for you do not have the luxury of having your own ideas. According to the bible being gay is blasphemy so they cannot go to heaven is you practice it and if you doubt the words of god which according to Christianity are the words of the bible you are a blasphemer and are going to hell

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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Then according to your beliefs you are going to hell. Because you chose to have your ideas predigested for you do not have the luxury of having your own ideas. According to the bible being gay is blasphemy so they cannot go to heaven is you practice it and if you doubt the words of god which according to Christianity are the words of the bible you are a blasphemer and are going to hell


well thanks man, then ill have to stop supporting gay relations wont I?

Who gives anyway man. I mean if you dont beleive in Christianity then dont. I never said you had to. I was just giving my opinion. Take it or leave it, its your choice.


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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Nashbar said:
the proven "big bang theory"??? are you serious?


Proven 100% no but there is plenty of evidence to support it have you ever heard that the universe is expanding this has been proven which makes the Big Bang Theory the most plausible theory explaining the origins of the universe. You should try picking up a book on physics and putting down the bible you would be surprised what you might learn

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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yes, please enlighten me on what the "red shift" in light has to do with a "big bang" creating intelligent life that is able to questin its own creation.

Edited by Nashbar (08/26/05 09:58 PM)

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Re: I have decided [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
religion isnt about knowing, its about belief. Christianity, you got the bible as a guide and it explains everything.


Okay, so you have a book of stories written by humans theorizing about how the universe came to be, that is based on nothing but made up stories, and that explains everything? It's written by man, they dont know any better than we do. Tons of other religions have books that "explain everything" too. What if yours is the wrong one?

XUL said:
Some of the stories in there seem bogus, but u gotta think, a book that old has probly been changed alot, or misunderstood and then written down wrong in translations, maybe thats why we have so many types of Christians, I dunno."



so then how do you know what to trust in it? If its been so mistranslated then parts of it could be completely wrong and you are blindly following a fairy tale

XUL said:
Christianity IMO makes more sense then the damn big bang theory...."



because saying "the universe began with a big explosion" is so incomprehensible compared to just saying "and God created the heavens and the earth"? Really i dont understand either, but at least the big bang is a theory based on detailed observations of the world around us. What is the bible creation story based on??? absolutely nothing. Its just a human saying "well God created it".


XUL said:
And anyway,.. I mean think about it, all you have to do is beleive, pray, be a good person, and every once in a while give into some self sacrafice, and you get into heaven. I mean, thats like the best deal ive ever heard. I mean u gott nothin to lose. If you beleive in God when you die, then you will go to heaven, if you dont then you wont go to heaven. Id rather take my chances beleiving.


but where is any proof of any of this other than books written by man speculating this. Just because it sounds easy doesnt mean its true. Just because it sounds nice and pleasing to our human emotions doesnt mean its true. You are saying that you would rather just believe wihtout any sort of evidence at all, rather than actually stop and question and think for yourself, because you're scared of not getting in to heaven? Sounds like they are just controlling your beliefs by your fear to me. But its ok really, as long as they tell you that you are guarenteed into heaven, there is really no need to think deeply about it right? They could never be wrong. They could never be lying to you.......

oh yea...and what if you have the wrong religion. It looks like you are kinda screwed then...


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"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Once again you highlight your ignorance the big bang had nothing at all to do with the origin of life only the origin of the universe. It has been proven in the laboratory that the building blocks of life Amino Acids could have been created on the Earth around 2 billion years ago these amino acids came together to form proto-bacteria and then evolution kicks in. Have you heard of evolution? Is the theory 100% yet no but its still evolving....Even in its incomplete infancy these theories are infinitely better than the belief that some deity in the sky created us can you prove even one little bit of this using the scientific method if you can i would like to hear it?

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Re: I have decided [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
You are now ready for S&P. Welcome :wink:


haha i cant stand that forum...every post turns into an argument over meanings of different words


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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